Should Israel have been created in Germany?

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Should Israel have been created in Germany?

  1. Yes, would have been poetic justice.

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  2. In Palestine AND Germany. Two is better than one.

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  3. Madagascar would be best.

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    45.5%
  4. Crimea

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    9.1%
  1. rangecontraction

    rangecontraction New Member

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    I voted for the first option.
     
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    That is a Hindu swastika and so is Holy.

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  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    German landscape is much prettier than Palestine, so yes this would have been a good idea.
     
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    I agree. Such a pity that we could not have stayed in Germany.
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    You know they had a huge area in Russia with fertile soil, plenty of water and petroleum.

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    Read the Nuremberg Laws...
     
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    Incorrect. Hitler was the LEADER of Germany and the GERMAN Army caused the Jews the misery. I hope that helped clear up your confusion.
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russia didn't cause the Holocaust, therefore they shouldn't have to give up land as compensation,
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    in the farthest reaches of Siberia.

    would YOU want to live there?????
     
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    Russia gave them a land of their own 2 decades before the rise of Hitler.

    The idea of creating a Jewish state within the Soviet Union came about in the 1920’s when Vladimir Ulanov, also known as Lenin, proposed that Russian Jews be given a land in which they could join the community of nations, with their own language and own institutions, similar to the Ukraine or Belarus or Kazakhstan or any of the other so-called Soviet Republics.

    All of these “republics” spoke their ethnic language, except the Jews. At first the Central Executive Committee tried to settle all 3 million Soviet Jews in the Ukraine or on the Crimean Peninsula. That, however, failed because the natives did not want Jews to move into their territory.

    Therefore Birobidzhan was chosen. That territory is located in Siberia and borders on the northern edge of China. It is near Vladivostok, the most remote Russian city, located on the Sea of Japan, at the Pacific.

    Seeking the autonomy the Soviet government promised, about 43 thousand Jews moved there between 1928 and 1938.

    Nevertheless only about 19,000 Jews stayed there. The others left soon because the government did not provide the housing and agricultural machinery promised. The harsh winters and extreme summers also led to a diminution of the Jewish population.
     
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    Thank you for destroying your own point.
     
  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Soviets created ethnic homeland for almost every nationality that live in the USSR, in places where these people already lived.

    ....except for the Jews.

    The homeland for the Jews, was created not in western Russia or Ukraine where millions of Jews have lived for centuries, but in a little region in the farthest reaches of eastern Siberia, along the Manchurian border.

    basically, the creation of this so-called "jewish state" in Siberia, was an attempt at ethnic cleansing the USSR of their Jews. There are rumors that had Stalin not died when he did, he was going to order the mass-purging of all Soviet Jews, maybe 5 million or so, to Birobidjan.

    Thank God he died.
     
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    It has warm summers, lots of water, farm land and fertile soil and petroleum.

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    Like this?

    Russian Jews be given a land in which they could join the community of nations, with their own language and own institutions, similar to the Ukraine or Belarus or Kazakhstan or any of the other so-called Soviet Republics.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Soviet Jews should have been given a land where they already lived, just like all the other Soviet nationalities.

    the idea of moving millions of Jews from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, to eastern Siberia was simply ethnic cleansing.
     
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    Actually it is both, there is an Om inside of this . That's why I made it that way. Because while I like their doctrine, I do not approve of the Fuhrer's personal vendetta against the Jews and the Gypsies (Who he only deemed unworthy due to their lifestyle btw). I think most people actually agree with me, but don't want to call themselves Nazis and support anything with a .
     
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    Well yes in a way. He was a good German citizen, he fought in the army, and came out an officer. He was devastated when Germany lost World War I. He was truly held back by people who so happened to be Jews. The people who rejected him from the Art School of Vienna, his commanding officer in the army, and the people who refused him jobs in Austria. But his personal vendettas towards them should have never seeped into politics.
     
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    WRONG!!!

    Hitler LOVED his Jewish family doctor that cared for his ill mother, for free.

    Hitler also respected very much his Jewish supervising officer in the military, who awarded him his Iron Cross.
     
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    Well Madagascar wouldn't have worked since it populated and half the population is Christian...

    Anywhere they had gone they would have had to take over and expel the inhabitants to have a "Jewish State".
     
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    they could have done it in Crimea.

    Or East Prussia.
     
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    Why do people hate the Jews?

    Leave them alone.

    Israel was created in the homeland of the Jews to give them a place of safety after the Holocaust.

    The Phoenicians & Philistines didn't like it when the Jews came home after the Babylonians took them as slaves.

    The Canaanites didn't like it when the Jews came home after the Egyptian slavery.

    The Arabs don't like it that they came home after the Holocaust.

    Quit hating on the Jews and leave them alone.
     
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    I don't know about Germany, but I have recommended some lovely acreage in northern Nevada and West Texas. To my way of thinking, Israel should not have been created anywhere. Baptists do not have their own country (though they are trying to take one).
     
  22. Ronstar

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    Baptists aren't a religious-ethnic group. Jews are.
     
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    The Indians still have huge swaths of the best land in America.
     
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    Semantics
     
  25. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, Jews are an ethnic group.

    DNA proves we have common ancestry.
     

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