social security end if republicans win in 2020 ?

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Old goats in camo are going to defeat the armed forces? ROFL
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And yeah, I'm sure it wouldn't ultimately end up like the First round.

    You're a genius.
     
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    Says the crowd that's been triggered every day since Nov 8, 2016 ?
    :roflol:
    You know it's your open borders party who'll bankrupt medicare and social security by extending eligibility to illegal immigrants. Once the DNC decides which commie it wants as a nominee Trump can just lay out what Americans can expect if they elect a bleeding heart socialist. Equality through universal suffering. :no:
     
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    :) Keep saying 'open borders' and real American laughs at the GOP.
     
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    "Seniors Worried About Social Security Cuts"

    https://247wallst.com/economy/2019/08/09/seniors-worried-about-social-security-cuts/

    "Fully two-thirds of advisers say their clients are “moderately worried” that Social Security will “drastically cut benefits” in the future. In the trustees’ report last April, they estimated that a 25% reduction in benefits will be required unless Congress raises the Social Security withholding tax."

    right now the baby boomers are retiring, this is temporary, but republicans will not raise the caps on the rich to get us through this temporary hardship
     
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    The current system of governance is an ideology of hate.
    Republicans - hate based on economic status
    Democrats - hate based on race gender and sexuality.

    That is how U.S. government keep people in check.
    American voter will vote for anyone who is against the government, even if it brings more hate.
     
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    Well then one of your liberal school teacher friends should run fir president and take back the democratic party..

    Of course it doesn't mean liberals no longer exist, i was just pointing out that the causes of division are coming primarily from the left.

    Yes Obama, though horrible and did not represent me at all, was my president.

    Liberals may still exist but they aren't in politics on the national stage and certainly not running for president.

    No Trump is going out of his way to point out how idiotic leftists are and that infuriates him because what he says about them is true and its easier to spew hatred for him than to admit you are wrong and change your ways.
     
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    Lolz ... put on 'yer happy face, but we both know you cringe everytime you're reminded the DNC wants to decriminalize illegal entry, prevent deportation, and abolish ICE. "Medicare for all" incudes illegals and SS is next on the list.
     
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    We both know the far right is very worried about next year's elections.

    They should be.
     
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    Worried it can't get here quick enough. :lol:
     
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    So the damage can be stopped to Trump's campaign? Nah, the damage is only increasing and the ability to stop it decreasing.
     
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    Earn what you get one day at a time. Keeps all you can of what is yours, what you earned by hard work, and resist, as much as is possible, letting the government waste it.
     
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    Not in the slightest, PI, merely pointing out the truth that Trump is in real trouble. With fifteen months out, he has time to turn it around, but he would have to change his character, and he can't do that.
     
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    Trump has a 60 million votes sewn up. He doesn't have to traverse the entire country. Biden's the only threat, and he's a dixiecrat loving segregationist. Biden's not an open borders bleeding heart either ... meaning creepy Joe is still a racist. Obama hasn't endorsed him, and Joe snubbed Sharpton. Trump is going to cruise to a 2nd term.
     
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    Trump hasd14 MILLION MORE VOTE AGAINST HIM than for him last time, and it will be TWENTY MILLION MORE in 2020.

    His core is solid, but he can't gain votes. Polls from right to left document that fact.

    You can laugh in the wind, but who cares.
     
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    Have they come anywhere close before?
     
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    The GOP, if they want the House back, have to say up from Social Security is safe as is.
     
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    Of course not--it would be political suicide.
    The investment of trust funds are in government bonds, supposedly the most secure investment in the world.
    No, we need to pay for the programs we feel we need. It follows, IMO, we should look at not only the programs, but who pays for them.
    We have far more people attending college and university, and a even a higher K-12 graduation rate. Real wages haven't increased in 40 years and this means increasing costs of higher education--states are unwilling to pay for far more students--have to be covered by the Feds, either through student loans or government spending. Banks don't lend to 20-year-olds with no assets and part-time jobs. Without Feds operating through some department, a lot of students would have to abandon higher education.
    They won't pay, especially poor states.

    Use your education to think through the problem.
     
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    How about a more fair distribution of income? The system is rigged against workers. I made far more investing than I ever did teaching school. Essentially, I volunteered as a high school and adult education teacher. That's a wrong way to run an economy.
     
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    Too funny. The mental gymnastics you have to perform to arrive at those figures is spectacular. 10 million idiots voted for lost cause candidates. Trump won the swing states, and he'll win them again. He can focus his attentions there, and his agenda of protecting US jobs and industry is resonating in those states. The second the DNC selects it's commie nominee, the polls are going swing hard in Trump's favor ... or at least the honest polls will.
     
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    If they do anything, they'll cut fraud and waste in SS disability benefits from those who are gaming the system, cut SS from the wealthy who don't need it, raise the SS and Medicare taxes on workers, and possibly raise the retirement age. IMO, if your'e already on SS, you won't see any changes at all, other than an annual cost of living increase in your benefits.
     
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    The funny is that the far right deny the facts and the number.

    The funny is that the far right keeps getting ready to fight the last war they barely won, while their opponents are preparing to fight the coming war.

    The funny is that Trump is behind in Texas, North Carolina, Arizona, Ohio, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, way beyond the error of margin in most of them, all states Trump won.

    The funny is that Trump is behind in every blue state he lost: way behind.

    Fox is not wrong, only the far right and the Trumpers.
     
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    The Pubs have never cut fraud and waste in SSI.

    The Pubs have never cut SS from the wealthy.
     
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    Sure, and the day after that, they start rounding up grandmothers and taking them to the cliff.
     
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    Welfare, or fair share? Your comment seems to suggest you think the way the economic system works now is fair.
    Originally intended, or putatively intended now? I don't think it's operating as intended either way.
     

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