Something For Atheists to Consider

Why would it? The guy this piece centers on is an atheist. Clearly, it isn't in itself incompatible with atheism.

That being said, I don't find the argument to be particularly convincing. To the best of my knowledge, the argument hasn't been consistently presented in a way we could really verify.

 

I've yet to meet an atheist that believes in an after life and have never even heard of such a thing.
My experience is anecdotal but it all is absolutely contrary to what you state.

 

If you say so. I am finding more atheists all of a sudden that claim they are not opposed to the idea of a life independent of their temporal body though more typically I have heard from atheists that only believe that humans are like
computers and once the plug is pulled (death) there is absolutely no possible existence beyond that. That is what I was literally told, more than once. Much much more.

Religion is man's doing. Let's not confuse what man is responsible for (not that I object to religion) and what a hypothetical Creator is responsible for.

 

My father, who dabbled in esoteric knowledge, informed me many years ago that all of life was vibration of matter at a certain frequency and death was merely a continuation of existence but at a different frequency.

I'm heartened that science may be taking a look at what some people have intuitively or intellectually reasoned out long ago.

 

Okay. I'm here to learn and my mind is never closed to other possibilities. Good to see some atheists aren't the angry dogmatic
losers with personal issues one meets at forums like this one.

As for his argument I don't claim he or anyone has cold hard proof of a transcendent life...only that some scientists are lifting the great curtain between life and death and peeking in. I'm personally convinced of a transcendent life but have no illusions I know what that will be like.

 

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... if ya don't believe onna Jesus...

... when dey put ya inna suit...

... an' slide ya inna coffin...

... ya gonna be all dressed up...

... with no place to go.

 

are you kidding, many Buddhists do not believe in Gods and they do believe in a afterlife... shows that you do not know much about Atheists

I do not believe in a God, but do believe in a afterlife...

all Atheists are no more alike in what they believe then all Theists are alike in what they believe

all the Term Atheist means is you do not believe in a God, all the term Theist means is you do believe in a God

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You over generalize. Its the most opinionated that tend to post and the even more opinionated that post the most. That is true of theists and atheists. There is plenty of doubt around the parameters of their thrusts and counterthrusts.

 

I never said this couldn't be a viable theory, with sufficient research and testing, but it would again only verify some form of life after death as in now part of natural forces to consider the same as any other theory of science it would demonstrate nothing else than that. How does this demonstrate a deity exists since it doesn't.

 

I most assuredly am NOT an atheist.

It is my opinion that one cannot come to "there is at least one god" or "it is more likely that there is a GOD (are gods than} that that there are none"...using SCIENCE, LOGIC, or REASON.

It also is my opinion that one cannot come to "there are no gods" or "it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one"...using SCIENCE, LOGIC, or REASON.

Neither side of the question has science, logic, or reason on its side.

Respectfully as possible, YBF, your reference is laughable.

 

You are correct but since there is no evidence for a God disbelief is more logical. Same goes for an afterlife. When there is no evidence disbelief seems the more rational choice.

I always like the alien UFO analogy.

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You are correct but since there is no evidence for a God disbelief is more logical. Same goes for an afterlife. When there is no evidence disbelief seems the more rational choice.

I always like the alien UFO analogy.

 

It ABSOLUTELY is NOT more logical. In fact, it is not logical at all. It is exactly like the theist's assertion that there is at least one god...NOTHING but a blind guess masquerading as something more.

Consider this:

There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that any sentient beings exist on any planet circling the nearest 10 stars to Sol.

No evidence whatsoever.

How could anyone make a case that it is therefore more logical to assume there is none...rather than WE DO NOT KNOW?

The ONLY logical position to take on the question of whether or not gods exist in the REALITY of existence is: We do not know.

It is not logical to assume, guess, or "believe" that there are none...nor that there is at least one.

The ONLY logical assertion that can be made about an "afterlife"...is that we do not know. Any guess that there is an afterlife or that there is no afterlife...is nothing but a blind guess.

It most definitely is NOT more logical...and in fact, it is NOT logical at all.

It is your blind guess...which you are trying to strengthen by suggesting it is the result of logic being applied.

Sorry...but it isn't.

 

Why would it make atheists angry and livid? The silly idea of there being a god didn't make me angry and livid , why should any other whacky thought make me angry?

Just don't do as believers have done for centuries, out of their frustration, anger and livid hate they attacked anyone who didn't adopt their beliefs.

Leave us alone, which you can't seem to do , and you'll be left alone.

 

Here's something else for atheists to consider- Jesus wants PALS and I'm okay with that because it tickles me the way he went around upsetting the snooty priests and the fundy mobs..
But what I can't understand is why don't atheists like him? Whose side are they on?

He said- "You're my friends if you follow me. I don't call you servants, but I call you friends"- (John 15:15)

 

Who said they didn't like Jesus?

 

The fact of the matter is that no one understands the mechanisms of what happens after death. Whether certain amounts of energy are transferred to another state or not isn't clearly understood.

But people are free to choose to believe or not believe whatever they want.

Personally, I have no opinion on the subject...its immaterial since its impossible to know and its something that I will know when I experience it myself. But your pissy attitude about people who have different spiritual beliefs than you do is illuminates more about you than them.

 

If atheists simply like Jesus they're on the right track to finding the 'Jesus Stargate'..

Jesus said - "Enter through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it, but small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." (Matt 7:13)

 

I see that posting pretty pitchers off da internet is always your only argument....

fear of answering questions? You couldn't answer mine: Who said they didn't like Jesus?

 

I am an atheist and I would be very pleased to learn there is an afterlife, why would anyone be livid or angry to discover this?

But I do think it shows what some religious people struggle to grasp, an atheist does not base his world view on the existence of a god. Rather they base their world view on what they have thought and figured out for themselves.

 

Just look around at all the atheists poking fun at Jesus and badmouthing him (often obscenely), I don't think they like him one bit.
But they can't get under the radar..-

"Like the crackling of thorns under the pot, so is the laughter of fools" (Ecc 7:6)

 

That doesn't mean all atheists do......I know of believers who raped children, does that make all believers pedophiles? No.


I know of believers who might like Jesus but certainly don't take things he says seriously...

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Well said, thank you.

 

All I know about atheists comes from atheists themselves.

Thank you for the brief tutorial.

 

I've said nothing about a deity up until now but since you brought it up I can't imagine creation without a creator. Therefore I must posit there is a God, whatever that might be.

 

Speaking as a "spiritual" atheist I am not in the least bit "threatened" by quantum scientists investigating the potential for information to persist in another state. This isn't new either since the concept has been discussed before.

That theists would attempt to pervert this as "evidence" of a "soul" is just par for the course. Theists will grasp at any straw to prop up their belief system since that is what is actually "threatened" by the advances in scientific knowledge.

And here is how to prove that this is the case. If this "soul" does persist in the quantum state does that equate to "evidence" of an imaginary "creator" or is it just another facet of how the universe itself operates. What happens to this information once it leaves the physical realm and enters the quantum realm? Would someone who spent their entire life believing that there were going to meet their "creator" in "heaven" be able to cope with a multidimensial continuum where nothing is remotely similar to what they have experienced? Or would they consider this "strange new world" to be more akin to "hell" because they would be "lost" in some kind of "purgatory" because what they had been told to expect was not there?

From an atheist perspective it would be nothing more than something new to learn and experience because there are no expectations of what it was supposed to be. Without preconceptions it is easier to adapt to something new and bizarre from our current perspective.

There is nothing in the least bit "threatening" to any atheist to learn something new. For theists this might be yet another advance by science to undermine a stone age belief system and yes, that would be threatening to them.

 

I'm glad you got a laugh out of my post (however you managed to arrived at that uncalled for conclusion) but it is my opinion that God is not only possible but necessary using logic and reason, as science cannot confirm or deny at this point, if ever.

In fact the brilliant minds of humanity have, over the centuries, inferred a God using nothing but reason and logic and their reasoning has filled
philosophy books, one after the other. I'll stick with reason and leave the laughing to you.