Texas bans Planned Parenthood - rejects MILLIONS in federal money for women's health!

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  1. Radio Refugee

    Radio Refugee New Member

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    I'm a pragmatic atheist.

    If we found a single living cell on Mars, what would be the headline?

    Hint: "_____ on Mars!"
     
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    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Interesting. And which religions would those be?
     
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    Muslim for a start - other than that try google
     
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    Christian scriptures say no such thing! You might try reading them for yourself before making bizarre claims. The Bible doesn't mention abortion at all. And many Christians support abortion rights.
     
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    Seems to me it was around 1973 when Roe v Wade became the law of the land--well before Reagan became president. Lets not forget that Reagan had a democratically controlled congress to deal with as well.
     
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    A person who supports abortion on demand is not a Christian.
     
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    Why did you state "abortion on demand"? What other kind of abortion is there?

    BTW, you have no right to claim who is and who isn't Christian...You got it??
     
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    By that logic, neither is a person who supports most war.
     
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    I suppose Texas will learn the hard way that this isn't a good idea.

    They're likely to have more children on welfare soon.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*), God loves war.
     
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    Being pragmatic would involve realizing that abortion actually saves tax money in the long run and is connected to falling crime rates.
     
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    The bible doesn't mention it because they didn't have it. It would've been called murder back then.
     
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    Christ didn't seem to though.

    The whole cognitive dissonance side of Christianity is part of why I don't follow it.
     
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    Abortion on demand-abortion at any time for any reason-not OK. Abortions that have to be performed to save the life of the mother or in the case that the child will be born a major debilitating defect-OK but not hoped for.
    Oh, and I can very easily point out who is and who isn't a christian when it comes to the unnecessary murder of the unborn. If you are for it- you aren't a christian; simple as that.
     
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    Future taxpayer? HAHAHAH,,,

    You will never change their minds, it's hopeless Radio. They will look at Texas as barbaric now,,holding back important medical care. What's care to them, is death to somebody else. I still believe people should have a choice, and my choice is,,,I dont wanna pay for it!
     
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    It's all about money? No morality?

    Got it.

    I abhor your construct. That world is a very ugly place. With only economic worth as a justification for life you'd have plenty for the ovens, eh?
     
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    Oh get off your high horse. Cons only want to end abortion because then they would have more kids and single mothers to throw crap at.
     
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    If you're willing to spend a whole lot more on welfare, orphanages, and adoption programs, I'll support limiting abortion in most cases.

    Otherwise, it's not a feasible measure.
     
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    You missed it by a mile.

    If you will consider economic value as a justification for life then you are on the Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot glide path. You are a monster.


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    Did you see the Leftninny post yesterday claiming that the State Dept. blowing $650 million + on "climate change", was more important than protecting " a few no names in Benghazi"???

    The American Left is well and truly soulsick, at its core....
     
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    Hearing those voices in your head again? God talking to you? Seems like if abortion was an important topic for God, he would have at least mentioned it in his book.
     
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    Here it is, guys. Your own choice. You're not victims of anything here, because you can choose to give up killing innocent children if you really do care about these women's health and want them to have access to these other services that you are so convinced Planned Parenthood is valuable for.

    Stop clinging to abortion, and you'll get your funding.
     
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    If you're just going to insult me, then I guess there's no worth in discussing this with you.

    I'll give you one more chance.

    The basis for my reasoning has nothing to do with the worth of life. It has to do with setting policies that don't dig massive holes of debt and crime.

    I don't support welfare because I like it. It's there to keep things from getting really nasty with an underclass. If you think we have crime now, you can imagine what it would be like without any social programs.

    Similarly, I support the freedom for abortion because a lot of the alternative situations without a proper system in place are worse. Before legal abortion, you had back alley ones with coat hangers and such. Making it illegal generally only serves to kill more women, not so much saving more lives of the unborn.

    So, if ending the practice of abortion is your goal, then a ban on it is, at best, a half-measure.

    The only comprehensive way to reduce abortions is to help poor women raise the kids or send them to homes that can take care of them.
     
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    Would you apply the same appreciation of life to the children killed by drone attacks from our foreign policy?
     
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    The prophets who wrote the bible didn't include abortion because in their and god's minds the murder of the unborn was so unthinkable that they thought they didn't need to include it.

    Edit; actually they did include it- it falls under the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'.
     
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