The Pittsburgh Steelers football team will remain in the locker room during the National Anthem

I don't disagree with your last sentence, except I highly doubt that those that disliked player protests approved of the way Trump handled it.

I didn't think it was the appropriate venue or way for Kaepernick to protest either. However, it became a much bigger issue when Trump insinuated himself into the issue. It became about freedom of expression and the first amendment right to non-violent protest. Trump is trying to make this about the flag and the anthem. It was never about either of those, but to draw attention to inequality and police brutality, and that protest was waning, until Trump decided to gin up his base and distract from other issues.

 

Let's see what they say after Sunday's unity.

 

Trump is just squeezing the pimple; the pimple being the NFL, and a pretty ugly looking one at that.

 

At first it was about what he perceived as injustice. Then the norm, racism.

 

Yeah, because that's what the President's job is, amirite?

I'll bet you cheered loudly when President Obama and Harry Reid got involved in the name of an NFL team.

Civics, my friend. The President isn't in charge of pro sports.

The NFL is awesome. More interesting and lasting than the reality TV game shows Trump led.

 

That was 2 weeks ago. What was his statement on what happened over the weekend and the comments from President Trump?

 

BLM propaganda... Yes this entire new "movement" is based on nothing....No wonder the media is having a field day with it.

 

I only know what Kaepernick said was his reasoning, and he said it was about inequality and police brutality. Of course, it seems you've put a spin on what he said, as is your prerogative.

 

Why, the proof is in the pudding.



The Nail in the NFL’s Coffin......


No, it’s identity politics.Again. Still. With Blacks comprising 68 percent of the league, this is yet another example of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Millions of Americans have brought into the nonsense that President Trump is anti-semitic, racist, sexist, transgenderist, racist, white nationalist, neo-confederate, racist, homophobic, racist, Nazi, racist, Islamophobic racist bad man who clubs baby seals.

Which, even if that were true, there are still infinitely better ways to protest effectively.

It’s also bad business. Goodell and the owners are driving Americans away from football. Ratings are down again this year, after last year’s decline, which was a direct result of Colin Kaepernick’s temper tantrums. It’s only going to get worse, and it may already be too late.

And in case you think this has nothing to do with the culture wars, ask yourself: the same people defending these NFL crybabies are the same ones who mocked Tim Tebow for kneeling to pray when he was on the field.

Want to kneel at an NFL game? You’ll find me beside Mr. Tebow......snip~

https://townhall.com/columnists/lawrencemeyers/2017/09/25/draft-n2385938

 

Yes, that is my understanding, as well.

I've already said in another post that his method and venue, in my opinion, was inappropriate. I also believe Trump was completely inappropriate in calling players "sons of bitches," and in suggesting that players should be fired for expressing themselves using their constitutional right to do so.

 

The Constitution that allowed for emancipation, universal suffrage, civil rights, religious freedom, free thought etc. etc?

Wow. How short sighted.

 

Ok Cool but he didn't demand anything, go read the entire quote from the speech, not the edited version. My head isn't bobbing you didn't answer anything and I see you think that Trump doesn't respect the military or the country even though he's calling "millionaires" out for not respecting the country. Makes a ton of sense.

 

Ironic too. Players wrapping themselves in the 1st amendment, and such ...

 

I think things changed yesterday. Yes, people were unhappy that there was perceived disrespect for the flag and anthem. Then the President called names and suggested people lose their jobs over their first amendment rights, when the league had already made the call not to fire players for expressing themselves. Add into the mix Steph Curry, and interviews with players on television over the issue. Lots of people united against the President. Yesterday's protest wasn't about the flag and the anthem. Yesterday's protest was about Trump. Trump was just as disrespectful, if not more so, to other Americans as Kaepernick ever was to the flag and anthem.

 

Ah see I can respect this, he shouldn't have said SOB. If you read the entire quote he is pissed these guys are using the Anthem as a pawn, when it has zero to do with race and all about freedoms that we all benefit from others dying for. He's pissed about the divisiveness that is the very thing people are claiming he's doing.

 

I read the whole speech. I also saw the clip of his whole rally. Not any "edited" version. I even got to hear him calling the Americans he took an oath to defend and protect "sons of bitches".

No, he doesn't respect the military. He's the man who said, and I quote: "I like people who weren't captured".

If you can produce some evidence of these "millionaires" saying that America isn't great, I'm all ears. Which of yesterdays' protestors don't respect the country? Let's see some names and examples.

 

Unlike the PC Correct Left, Trump isn't trying to impose his views upon anyone, just stating his opinion; which happens to align with a majority of the people. If the NFL were smart, they would seriously consider his opinions, but of course they won't.

I've been tuning out the NFL for quite a few years now. Mostly because the team I follow sucks, but also because your brand of "awesomeness" doesn't really appeal to me. Lot's of glitz and glamor, and showboating, but the game itself as suffered some for it.

 

It was a continuation of the "not my flag" movement. Sure there's a bundle of issues involved but let's not forget this group or movement was literally using the flag as toilet paper. F' your flag or fyf911.

Time line is important.

 

He spent a part of a rally in Alabama suggesting that owners who have players who kneel for the anthem should be fired.

 

I don't think Trump is upset about divisiveness. He thrives on chaos and drives divisiveness. He is the President of all Americans, but he seems to forget that. He seems to think he is only the President of his base. He was in Alabama, off script, and made a comment he thought would rile up the crowd, as he often did during the campaign. What he did made things worse, and he doesn't seem to care.

 

Week 4:

Pittsburgh Steelers will be in a pool holding our breath under water during the national anthem.

 

I'd be feeding that goose helping it produce more golden eggs.

 

As I have already said, I disagree with Kaepernick's methods and venue, but he does have the right to protest in any way he sees fit, as long as it is non-violent. Americans have died to protect his very right to do so. By the same token, you are free to non-violently protest his protest, in any way you choose. You can be irate and not ever watch another NFL game, if you so choose.

The flag is a symbol that represents different things to different people. I have one in a triangular case now, that once draped my dad's coffin. He was a Korean War vet and a cop. Yet I understand, and so would he, what Kaepernick was protesting and his right to do so. I remember flag burning in the 60s. I remember raised fists during the national anthem at the Olympics in Mexico City. You don't have to agree with the content of the protests, but we, as a nation, have to support their right to do so. It is what the Constitution is all about.

 

I'm not the President of the United States. And I have nothing to do with you supporting a man who does not respect our military and who does not respect the POWs who gave up their lives and freedoms so you have yours.

What are you babbling about now "nonracial anthem"? Did you stumble into the wrong thread, or are you just confused about who you quote. I never said anything about the anthem being racial or nonracial.

 

Yes, I know. I also think they should be fired, suspended, or benched. Are you saying that neither Trump or I are entitled to our opinions.

Our opinions are a lot different from the PC Left using left-wing judges and left-wing courts to force a team to abandon a name they've been using since their inception, for the sole reason that it doesn't meet the PC criteria of the left. PC Liberals destroy everything they lay their hands on, including professional and collegiate sports.