The Trump defense for dummies...

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  1. SkullKrusher

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    First thing is to establish that we don’t wish to kill each other and then work from there
     
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    I was watching a clip on TV and a soldier who said he had been there for a decade, that it was the worse bombing that they had ever seen. They showed pictures and the damage was massive. It seems the counter punch did its trick.
     
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    Maybe because he was told that some of the troops only received bad headaches after the attack and not as bad as they found out later. Now you want to condemn him for killing two of the worst people that have killed scores of our troops
     
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    I don't listen to right wing propaganda so I don't see it the same as you. However, I have seen video clips of foreign leaders making fun of Trump. Do they show those to you on FOX?
     
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    Well no one was killed, so it couldn't have been that bad.
     
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    Trump should send his sons Uday and Qusay as jolts to their heads might actually do them some good. If I were an enlisted person at this point in time with that monstrosity in charge, I'd be long AWOL.
     
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    Kind of like the serial killer who claims he is doing society good by raping and killing prostitutes.
     
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    Maybe if you did listen to a little Right wing news you would be more informed to what is going on. It's been proven that Left Wing news is 92% negative so your not hearing the other side. Which doesn't surprise me when I hear this.

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    We have had thousands of our troops killed or maimed by those two bastards. I guess a few troops with medium head aches was worth taking them out.
     
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    That has clearly not been the trend so far. Support for conviction is strictly split across party lines, with Republicans slightly more opposed than Democrats are in favor, and independents split leaning opposed.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...nt_and_removal_of_trump_republicans-6958.html

    Trump is posting his highest approvals since his honeymoon period, hovering around where Obama was on the same day of office.

    I mean, there's always the chance that this trend reverses itself as salty ex employees the left hated with a passion 12 months ago release salty hit pieces, but I personally doubt it.

    Dems had to do it though - it looks insincere to say the things they have about him and not at least try impeachment.
     
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    I think Trump's actions in the Middle East have been such that no one really fears him. Not really. Add the fiasco in the Ukraine, as well as his bumbling and poor manners and world summits and no one takes him serious, not really. After all Trump is mostly just BS and most people can that.
     
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    And for decades as a New Yorker I have been keenly aware of what a grifter, thief and racketeer Trump has always been. No need to tune into a propaganda media outlet to here the spin that benefits them.
     
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    Those leaders were from NATO countries. They weren't laughing when Trump forced them to do this.


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    The Left bitched because he got tough with our NATO Allies. Said he was driving our Allies away. Both Bush and Obama tried to get NATO to put their fair share into a very weak NATO without success. Trump got it and we didn't lose them. ( Nato members increase defence spending by $100 billion ...
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/27/nato-members-increase-defence-spending-100...

    Jan 27, 2019 · Nato states will increase their defense spending by $100 billion in response to Donald Trump's demands that European allies shoulder a greater financial burden, the …
    Author: Julie Allen


    NATO head praises Trump for tough talk to member countries
    https://nypost.com/2019/01/27/nato-head-praises-trump-for-tough-talk-to-member-countries

    Jan 27, 2019 · WASHINGTON – The head of NATO on Sunday praised President Trump for demanding member countries pony up more money, saying Trump’s tough talk has produced “real results.” “President Trump ...
     
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    The only right wing "news" I ever see is the clips they show on the comedy shows. You know the ones, where the joke is, listen to what they are saying on FOX today.
     
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    I don't give a damn what Trump did before he became President. It's what he has done sense he became President that effects all of us. our children and grandchildren and he has done plenty to turn this country around.

    How does having more people working at any times in our history, having the lowest unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics, in their history and having the highest stock market in our history and the biggest wage gains sense 2007 working for you? September 8 at 5:12 AM ·

    Record 157,878,000 Employed in August
    “The number of people employed in the United States hit a record 157,878,000 in August, the 21st record set under President Donald Trump, according to the employment report released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics,” Susan Jones reports for CNS News.
    “The unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent. For blacks, the unemployment rate dropped to a record low of 5.5 percent last month. And for Hispanics, the... Unemployment rate was 4.2 percent in August, which ties the record low set earlier this year.”
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    “It’s been a lost summer for the Washington Post,” White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham and Principal Deputy Press Secretary Hogan Gidley write in the Washington Examiner. “Despite record-setting accomplishments in record-setting time, data shows the news coverage of Trump has been 92% negative. The most egregious and dangerous forms of this bias thrived this summer at media outlets like the Washington Post, which routinely masquerade opinion as news.”

    A whopping 266,000 jobs was created in November, with 54,000 manufacturing jobs created. All the while Canada lost jobs. Economist are blown away and Biden predicting a recession.
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    Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
    Jan 31, 2018 · Pay gains during Trump's first year in office best since the Great Recession. The Employment Cost Index, a measure of salary and benefit costs, registered a 2.6 percent gain for the full year, tied for the best since 2007. That gives President Donald Trump the best wage gains since the Great Recession, easily topping any during former President Barack Obama's entire term.
     
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    Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar workers are shrinking the wage gap

    Monthly reports on the number of new jobs and the unemployment rate can drown out important trends like these two: After four decades of worsening, wage inequality has started shrinking. And in a twist, America’s blue-collar workers are playing the biggest role in driving that reversal.

    This may come as a surprise, because education is classically seen as a ladder up the income scale. Despite blue-collar workers often lacking college degrees, their wages have been accelerating faster than those of their white-collar counterparts.

    For example: In the past three years, white-collar workers, the sector that the Bureau of Labor Statistics classifies as “Management, Professional, and Related Occupations” and which encompasses 40% of the workforce, have seen their wages grow by nearly 7.5%. During the same period, all other workers, a group composed almost entirely of noncollege grads, have seen their paychecks grow by about 10 percent.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...equality-shrinking-economy-column/1955329001/
     
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    Pay gains during Trump’s first year in office best since the Great Recession


    Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

    The Employment Cost Index, a measure of salary and benefit costs, registered a 2.6 percent gain for the full year, tied for the best since 2007, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported.


    President Donald Trump’s first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama’s eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.

    The ECI numbers match other indicators that show wage inflation is heading higher.

    The Atlanta Fed’s Wage Growth Tracker index showed the year ended with a gain of 2.9 percent — off the eight-year peak of 3.9 percent in November 2016 right after the presidential election, but still well above the 1.6 percent crater in January 2010.

    “After years of wage stagnation, we are finally seeing rising wages,” Trump said in his State of the Union address Tuesday evening.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps-best-since-the-great-recession.html
     
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    Here Trump started free or affordable child care for single low income mothers. This was because of the urging of Trump's Daughter Ivanka. https://freefinancialhelp.net/free-childcare-assistance/

    Trump signs Autism bill

    Trump signs autism legislation into law providing $1.8B in research funding. There is no medical test available to diagnose autism. Autism is diagnosed by observing the development of a child, according to the CDC. Characteristics of autism were studied as symptoms of schizophrenia in the early 1900's. Rep. Smith says the bill will fund research, early detection and treatment for autism spectrum disorder. Oct 2 2019

    Reference: ://www.wtsp.com/.../trump-signs.../507-70e3e773-3fe4-4d7…


    Advocates for More Child Care Spending Push “Crisis” Report ...
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    May 30, 2019 · Harper says it will take a sustained push to maintain and increase child care funding. But there are indications that child care funding is getting more attention. The White House, led by Ivanka Trump, President Donald Trump’s daughter, is proposing increased spending and address shortages.





    President Trump and Ivanka push paid leave at White House ...
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    Dec 12, 2019 · President Trump touted the importance paid family leave on Thursday, a cause pushed by his daughter and senior adviser Ivanka Trump. A number of lawmakers are at the White House for a summit ..





    1. Ivanka Trump and Google commit to White House job training ...
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      Oct 03, 2019 · Ivanka Trump, President Donald Trump’s daughter, oversees the administration’s worker training efforts. Google is also expanding a program it developed to prepare people for entry-level jobs in...

    2. Ivanka Trump visits Georgia in workforce development push
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      DULUTH, Ga. (AP) — President Trump’s oldest daughter and adviser Ivanka Trump toured a plant in Georgia Wednesday in a workforce development push. Trump’s visit to a UPS driving training plant outside Atlanta with Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp was part of an effort to show the administration’s ...

    3. Donald Trump to Tout Training, Apprenticeships in 'Workforce ...
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      Jun 12, 2017 · President Donald Trump and his daughter and adviser Ivanka will travel to Wisconsin on Tuesday as part of the White House's "workforce development week." ... Push to bring skills training to the
     
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    Donald Trump Signs Executive Order $100 Billion To ...
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    No surprise medical bills. https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/450521079085682/
     
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    I'll bet your bias news stations that gives 92% negative news on Trump has told you people almost none of this. Now you know why we follow Trump. It sure isn't because of what he says or what he did before becoming President.
     
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    It appears you believe that by overloading your posts with lots of haphazard cutting and pasting you will overwhelm the debate and therefore prove a point. Well, you would be mistaken. IMO you would do better by choosing one issue at a time and sticking with it for a cohesive debate.
     
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    No, I put down web sights to prove what I said. I don't expect you to take my word for it. Now why is it when that girl ask all those Trump protesters and was asked to name just one thing Trump did, none of them could name one thing? Why is it do you suppose your bias Left wing news stations are telling you none of this? Aren't they suppose to report the news?
     
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    Your bias news will tell you Obama created 11 million jobs and had 85? strait ,months of continued growth, more than any other administration. Sounds good except they leave out that over 90% of those jobs are in the service industry and million of service jobs are only part time. They only tell you what they want you to hear.
     
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    Today I hear Pelosi taking all the credit for the new Canada/Mexico trade pact. Said it would never pass Congress the way Trump got it. What they didn't say though


    Funny the Democrats want to take all the credit for NAFTA when Obama said he would fix it and then changed his mind and did nothing. Before this agreement that Trump started, the Democrats did nothing to change NAFTA or any of our trade agreements. Of course it wouldn't pass with a Democratic Congress. They had to add something to it so they could take credit for the whole thing. If Trump hadn't started fixing these rotten trade deals, they would never have been fixed.

    Obama Reverses Campaign Pledge to Renegotiate NAFTA https://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/11/Obama_reverses_campaign_pledge_to_renegotIate
     
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    I hope you notice I think out of all the stuff I put up, their is only one site I used from Fox. I try and not use any hard core Right leaning sites because I know you guys will dismiss it right off the bat.
     

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