The World to Come

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Striped Horse, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. Pollycy

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    You are correct... a simple review of history tells us what you have related here.

    I wasn't saying that there hadn't been 'central banks' in the U. S. before the Fed. I said I'm not certain what liberal, "progressive" Democrats thought they were really doing when they brought a central bank like the Federal Reserve System into existence in 1913. If it was to create great stability, security, and reliability in the economy, then they failed.

    Less than 20 years after the Fed was launced, we had The Great Depression. Also, interestingly, less than 20 years after the Fed was created, Frankie Roosevelt made the possession of gold by American citizens illegal! And, no, I don't advocate returning to "the gold standard" in this country, but, as I said, it's been 'boom-bust' ever since -- and the invention of the Federal Reserve System didn't actually do anything but concentrate immense power in its hands... including the ability to regulate the money supply to suit itself! Obviously, it was necessary for the Fed to get gold out of the way during the Great Depression -- because the Fed couldn't control it!

    But for those interested in the history, per se, here's a more-or-less useful link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_central_banking_in_the_United_States
     
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    Don't worry. I'm a nice guy. I won't hold it against you if you put me on "ignore" status and I'll still send you a Christmas card every year. :couple_inlove:
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Chavez ruled until he died. Maduro is still there. What is happening now isn't of our creation.
     
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    Correcting the BS is my favorite thing to do here.
     
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    Every foreign war weve ever waged has been illegal under that theory.
     
  7. Thingamabob

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    The situation in Venezuela today is the direct result of American manipulation & treachery.
    Don't be such a sore loser.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since the end of WW II yes.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You really believe that?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think he's just upset about America's fall from grace and hasn't been keeping up with the news since the war with Korea.
     
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    Most European countries support religious schools with taxpayer funding as they realize that they are fulfilling taxpayer needs, something the USA does not acknowledge.Parents who send their children to religious schools here, still have to pay normal real estate taxes supporting public schools, in addition to paying tuition to support the religious school their child attends.
     
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    I think that what you are saying about the US is good simply because it encourages people to send their children to a non religious school. If all children are educated together they tend to find it easier to get on with people who are different to them when adults.
     
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    Where in the Constitution is there an authority to wage a foreign war? Cant be found.
     
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    Yes. Do you really believe otherwise? I'll assume you don't disagree that Chavez ruled until he died and that Maduro is still there, so is must be the present that you dispute. Whats your evidence?
     
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    "manipulation & treachery". Bet that is the most detail you can provide. Was that from a Maduro speech?
     
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    Democracy is never valid, always a farce, and inevitably leads to a dictatorship, if not of one man, than whosever gang is the largest.
     
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    Why is it that Norway with its nationalized oil industry isn’t starving to death, while Venezuela with its nationalized oil industry can’t even feed its lab rats?

    And if America and it’s corporate control of the government :roflol:is so hell bent on destroying socialism where ever it rears it’s ugly head, why hasn’t she demanded Norway’s expulsion from NATO, and regime change for its government?

    Could it be because Norway’s population isn’t starving to death. And is the reason it’s not starving to death because it’s economy is still predominantly capitalist?

    Could it be America is only interested in regime change when leaders of nations turn their countries into a cemeteries?

    What angers me most about some on this board is how they can be so morally outraged at a perceived violation of the Holy Grail, Democracy; but feel no outrage, no revulsion, no indignation at the two men most responsible for taking the richest nation in South America and turning it into a ghetto of mass starvation, a ghetto that rivals that of Warsaw under Nazi occupation. Those two men are Chavez and Maduro, not Trump and Bolten.

    While you so-called “concerned souls” for democracy wring your hands...shake your fingers...cry your tears...and argue about who voted for whom, men, women, and children are dying...and the one responsible is walking around free, smoking Cuban cigars.

    There is no hell hot enough to grant you the justice you deserve.
     
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    Eleuthera that was obvious, even to someone who hadn't studied every article and every amendment for a long time. You wanted me to waste an hour of my life and when I declined you harangued me for not doing so to try to provoke me to do so.

    I have been explaining why I processed your challenge as obvious. And if you think that is a smart method of debating, rather than a cheap, juvenile, deceitful piece of crap, then please take your childish pranks elsewhere. We were not involved in a polemic exchange, or even a culture war scrap, in fact you were saying "I agree with you but...". If you think there is the slightest honesty in a puerile attempt to try and trap someone who is engaging in discussion with you and then following it up over and over again so that you can have a pathetic "gotcha ha ha" moment, then you are deluding yourself.

    99% of exchanges on here end up with a good old culture war. It's enjoyable for a time calling down fire and brimstone on numskulls who cannot express themselves without grunting. But now and again someone engages in a serious discussion (and its usually someone who disagrees with me on some things, if not most). I mistook you for someone in the latter category. My mistake. I make that mistake a lot but hey ho.

    But hey, kudos to you for being honest that you were trolling, even if you think it's "honest".
     
  19. Thingamabob

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    That's actually a good point although there must be other factors in any country other than those covered by their constitution. But any way you look at it starting wars, funding wars, toppling governments, inserting puppet regimes, assassinating politicians and/or their opposition, creating armies (read terrorist organizations) and going abroad to fight wars cannot be described as "national defense". So you are right- justification for such cannot be found in your constitution nor can it be found in the book Democratic Principles or even in "Honest Joe's Book of Decency and Fair Play". So I wonder ... what side of the GOOD GUY - BAD GUY line do you think the U.S. should stand?

    The present situation is the same as when War-shington made its' plan to assassinate Fidel Castro, Mohammad Mosaddegh, Olaf Palme, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Moammar Ghadaffi, and Bashar al-Assad. The present is a set-up prelude to the show. The present is the political difficulties in Venezuela which have been orchestrated by War-shington in its' preparations to the finale. Both Castro and Assad were rescued in the nick of time by the Russians. Now .... what about Manduro?
    If it looks, walks, and quacks like a duck it probably is a duck. If the U.S. is involved in a foreign nation's affairs, a government that just happens to be willing to shitcan the dollar as its currency of preference, there is probably manipulation and treachery afoot. You can bet it's a duck.
     
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    Norway is a constitutional monarchy. That means, according to the usual politicalforum numskullery, that it has a King who decides everything and its citizens are just desperate to leave their storied land behind and come to the USA, where there is freedom and they can escape from feudal subjugation.

    It's largest political party for the last hundred years, for most of which it was the government, was the Labour Party, a social democratic (i.e. dirty commy Euro liberal scumbag) party.

    But you don't somehow take that tone now?

    It's good to see conservatives starting to embrace the notion that some nations have capitalist systems, freedom and democracy, and still work well enough, even though the word "social" is vaguely associated with them. Welcome to the world of regulated capitalism, with sensible public policy towards infrastructure, high taxes and extensive welfare.

    Norway's a bit too left wing for me, but it's not got a bad record.
     
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