Thousands rally against Israel in Istanbul

Yes, I know that members of the Islamic faith are comprised of many races.

Speaking about the current East vs West conflicts, are you really unaware that there are US & other Western military forces currently killing & occupying Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan etc? (Please see PNAC, "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" & the Oded Yinon Plan(1)
How would you react if you were living under similar repressive & bloody policies?
Don't you think that that is a significant factor behind what is primarily anti Western sentiment and Islamic terrorism against Western targets?

No, I am not "...making excuses for terrorists", I'm simply stating the reality of "Cause and effect"

What part about the following quote do you not understand?
“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)


"“Greater Israel” or “Greater Khazaria”?"
http://americanfreepress.net/greater-israel-or-greater-khazaria/?print=print

EXCERPT "The Yinon Plan stated that Iraq was then the greatest obstacle to an Israeli Middle Eastern empire and control of the area’s wealth of natural resources. The first stage was to weaken both Iran—an Israeli ally under the shah—and Iraq through war against each other. After this, the American invasion in 2003 was to lead to the division of Iraq into three smaller, ethno-religious states operated by Sunni and Shiite Muslims in the middle and south, and a new Kurdistan in the north.

ISIS is the means by which Israel and the United States—which established, trained and supplied the terrorist organization—have nearly succeeded in the tripartition.

It is no accident that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared that the Kurds “deserve” their own country for being “brave fighters” against ISIS. Ironically, he denies the same courtesy to the brave Palestinians resisting Israeli occupation.

But do not expect Israel to help destroy ISIS.

“When your enemies are fighting each other, don’t strengthen either one of them; weaken both,” said Netanyahu on NBC’s Meet the Press on June 22.

Nevertheless, the Balkanization of the Middle East is not just a Jewish strategy, as the U.S., Great Britain and the European Union (EU) are key players. American neoconservatives led by Richard Perle developed an amplification of the Yinon Plan in 1996 named A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm and The Atlantic and Armed Forces Journal published maps in 2006 and 2008, which demonstrate that U.S. military strategy is also founded on the same sinister intentions.

As this newspaper has reported, Israel and its U.S. and EU puppets have waged constant war for years against all the countries named by Yinon, and more: Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Iraq, Syria."CONTINUED

 

Then why did you use the term "Racist"?

Do you understand that Muslims are murdering Muslims throughout the Middle East and have been doing it for decades?

 

The Armenians certainly think so. So do the kurds.

 

And the main purpose of the death cult called "islam" is to slaughter.

 

He would have erdo put to a quick and painful death in very short order.

 

Conspicuously absent in Fred's list of odious political beliefs eligible for criticism was "Zionism"

 

This is hilarious, assuming the poster is even telling the truth - which is likely not the case, a single person goes on a trip and that can somehow overcome the reality of tens of millions of christians living in muslim majority countries being oppressed?

Given how this "poster" claims to be for human rights but only attacks jews and Israel, well that pretty much tells one all they need to know about them.

 

From the poster claiming muslims are not ethnically cleansing non-muslims out of the mideast, hilarious AND pathetic.

And why is nationalism for jews not acceptable - but is acceptable for everyone else?

 

Huh? Are millions of musims moving TO or AWAY from Christian majority countries?

Are christian majority countries ethnically cleansing and slaughtering non-christians out of their countries? Are you living on earth?

Poster is pretty weak on facts, and looking like it will be headed to the ignore box soon.

 

Just another example of what we've come to expect from Muslim run countries - where education is severely limited and religious censorship everywhere.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-women-girls-nine-fetching-highest-price.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...sex-slavery-explained/?utm_term=.cfaca5ba1afa

 

We're not on the same page. The discussion should not be diverted into somethin else. No rational person goes for such a "what-if" because political conjunctures were completely different.

We didn't have "green-belt" back then. We were not a NATO member, were NOT obliged to put that "progressive Islam" jersey on, were not addressed in 2004 by George W Bush at Ortakoy mosque as a MODEL nation for the Greater Middle East project, were not serving as central chess board of cold war clashes, were not having NATO bases, open economy, foreign exchange markets, free flow of foreign capital, "allied sponsored terrorism", weren't bound by the European Union's biased criterias, didn't have no CIA coups like we later had in 72, 80, 2016, didn't even have no single "opposition party" in the parliament, didn't have no CIA cliques in governmental bodies, didn't have FETO bastards infiltrated in crucial government institutions like police department, military, department of foreign affairs, and they had not yet assassinated many prominent Kemalist journalists like Mumcu, Hablemitoglu, Ipekci, modern thinkers like Üçok, Turan Dursun, numerous government personnel like Gaffar Okkan, Eşref Bitlis, etc...

So in order to guess what Ataturk would have done if he had seen today, the conjunctures should at least be similar. If not, then it wouldn't be absurd to say a genius like him would have seen the salvage is through keeping the recent popular leadership under control of the true patriotic powers by turning it into what Cortes turned Montezuma's leadership into. This in turn is actually what's going on today. So we do what Ataturk would have done already. That's why we're not on the same damn page because WE ARE HERE THROUGH all that stuff and you are not... We came this far to be able to conduct military ops beyond our borders, imprisoning CIA/FETO agents, going against all American plans in the region, from once being that loyal dog. You asked for education, there is your education above.

 

No you don't.

Before 1967 faithfully observed the Arab Boycott.

Israel either made its' own weapon or purchased them from France or Czechoslovakia at inflated prices because no one would sell to Israel. Obviously Czechoslovakia was a USSR funnel of weapon sales and France was just being France.
Those who bemoan the firing on the Liberty by Israelis in 1967 do not know the state of the relationship between Israel and . Israel had every reason to believe the Liberty would share intercepted messages to those seeking to annihilate the Jewish state.

When abandoned the Arab Boycott under the leadership of NIXON who got little Jewish support in , the region turned to the USSR.
Remember, NIXON authorized the rearming of Israel during the Yom Kippur War.
No Congress needed.

Beyond Truman extending recognition to the State of Israel,
the American gov't was not on "friends" terms with Israel until NIXON 1968.
Absent are, the rest of Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ.
No Blue Helmet or American troops ever deployed to defend Israel from wars of annihilation.

That's what you do not have correct.
What part do I have incorrect?

Gracias

They seek a land corridor to NYC!
Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
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I was in a hurry & mistaken.

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(from earlier Post)

Please note:

"ORB survey of Iraq War casualties"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORB_survey_of_Iraq_War_casualties

CONTINUED "On Friday, 14 September 2007, ORB International, an independent polling agency located in London, published estimates of the total war casualties in Iraq since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.[1] At over 1.2 million deaths (1,220,580), this estimate is the highest number published so far. From the poll margin of error of +/-2.5% ORB calculated a range of 733,158 to 1,446,063 deaths."CONTINUED

 

40% of the Muslims in the Middle East support violent jihad against the West. 60% do not. You must have met people in the 60% crowd. How nice. But the 60% are essentially silent and do very little to stop the violent factions in their religion.

 

Truly. I have reading problems. In old age those childhood demons return.
I cannot fathom what you are saying above as a reply to my upload.
A synopsis might help.

I do understand you do not appreciate referencing Ataturk and Erdogan in the same breath as a "what if".

Was what I wrote about Ataturk correct.
The "reforms" he created against opposition. Banning the Hijab, education of girls along with boys and converting to the Latin alphabet.

If you might like to discuss this on another thread, if you would create one and link me I would gladly discuss. I would create it if you say you will take part there.

Best Wishes

 

What does your Post have to do with the topic at hand or what I wrote?

 

Hahaha... What a joke...

 

I was adding to your choice of points below, copy / pasted from your upload.


What part about the following quote do you not understand?
“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)


One can always find a quote to support anything.
I betchya Jesuit John Sheehan held all Jews alive as equally culpable for the death of Jesus when he decided to write the above.
BTW is there any part of my reply you disagree? As tangential as it may be.

 

I did not give you any orders to reply my posts which were not addressed to you. But since you like to be taken into account by me so desperately, I will make an exception starting with this post and will go with the few ones coming up Dutchy boy...

Them traitors should be thinking so... Because we're not the ones who came up with TERRORIST organizations directed against innocent Turkish civilians like; PKK, YPG, ASALA, HINCHAK, TASHNAK... I think we could have done much better a job butchering them bloody bastards... There are still few left overs alive. No good...

 

If you meant Jews and Christians as the ones to be slaughtered, I have to correct you.
Slaughtering Jews is not a must according to Islam. You may slaughter them if you really wish so, like want it so bad, but since they are also in the category of Allah's creatures, it's adviced to keep them alive.

In my humble and independent opinion, terrorists and their states always deserve a little bit of slaughter. I am also a Jew by the way and I think ISIS is creation of Israel, but since they apologized to Israel I think they are not terrorists, therefore they don't deserve to get slaughtered.

How are you? What do you think?

Regards;

Moshi.

 

Hmm this all sounds a bit peculiar. You are absolutely wrong that America was not an ally of Israel in 67

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-palestinians-israel-usa-timeline-idUSTRE62E45Z20100315

and the arab world was already under Russia's wing - or Russia was at any rate trying to win it. Due to this the 67 war came near to Armageddon

How Six Day war almost led to Armageddon

the reason being that Israel attacked first....and was headed for the Golan Heights. That is what the US did not want her to do and the likely reason for the attack on the Liberty.

Of course despite the Liberty after the 67 war Israel and the US became much closer. The US quadrupled (I think) its aid to Israel and they established mutual intelligence sharing which they still do to this day.

Regarding the boycott, my search brought no replies. In the Jewish virtual Library they talk instead about you fighting the boycott - it appears it was a voluntary thing done by some businesses and in 77 the US made it illegal for any US businesses to follow the arab boycott.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-of-the-arab-boycott-of-israel

You were Israel's ally in the 67 war.

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Once again, my posts which were addressed to some Dubious people are being replied by inconsistent people. Sad. You're not dubious. Musims? What is that? A comet? I am asking because comets do usually move TO and AWAY from objects not limited with Judeo-Christain bigotry, depending on the size of the genocide the Judeo-Christain bigotry conducts upon Musims.

I hope this helps.

Regards;

Moshi.

 

I dont understand... Isis apologized to Israel which means they RESPECT Israel. Considering Israel's recent sex with Saudi Wahabistan, I think it's the bond between slave owner and the slave. The question is, who is the slave? Israel? ISIS/Saudi Wahabistan?

Thanks,

Moshi.

 

Let's go... Any topic any forum any time you want. What are we gonna discuss? Atatürk did all of that so what?

 

We didn't realize it; they were too sneaky.