TRUMP’S CIA PICK IS THE GREAT FEMINIST MOMENT THE LEFT HATES

Awesome.

This thread has veered so far off topic that your only attempts at “rebuttal” are based around LBJ’s conduct from over 50 years ago, and Bill Clinton’s behavior from over a quarter of a century ago.

Thanks for keeping us up to date with these vital RECENT events.

“But...LBJ...But...Bill Clinton”.

Any chance of getting some new material?

This ANCIENT BS isn’t cutting it.

 

Rand Paul who opposes her is on the libertarian right. McCain if he was not dying would likely do so as well. Feinstein said nice things about her.

Views on torture cross ideological lines.

 

Rand Paul is a beta male.

 

He philosophically opposes abuse of power by government. I am not a fan of libertarians, but they are consistent at least.

McCain was an alpha male and opposed it as well.

 

Torture all the terrorists.

 

Do you think that is a view consistent with Christian belief or the expressed values of the US?

 

Against terrorist scum? I do.

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for that to work the Democratic Party has to declare they oppose everyone in the CIA and the CIA itself. Ask Chuck Schumer if he is now willing to take on "the intelligence community" that can get him "6 ways from Sunday." LOL

 

There is nothing "feminist" about picking someone simply because they are female.

Such a choice does NOT override humanitarian objectives broadly agreed within the USA and its allies.

I suspect from your post that you recognize you have no more than ad hom.

So, maybe you already recognized you were in the gutter with no way out.

 

He's one of the endlessly tantrum throwing bad losers crushed by President Trump in the primary. No doubt of it, the Republican party has some juvenile immature members of Congress. He a BAD copy of his Confederate father.

 

BTW, you start some EXCELLENT threads. Very informative. Thank you.

 

2+2 does not equal 6

 

I guess I will have to side with John McCain on this one although I don't know a biblical verse specifically on torture.

 

Nah, that's not the case. All you have to see and read the ad hominem attacks on any conservative out spoken woman.

 

Or they don't think torture is ok. A view not unique to the left.

 

I can guarantee you if Trump tried to grab her by the ***** he'd end up flat on his back.

 

Cmon, Trump would assault her on a waterboard, hook electrodes to her genitals and watch the lights dim.

 

This never would have happened if Bill Clinton could have taken his dick out of that intern's mouth long enough to issue the kill order on Bin Laden in 1998. That said, we got valuable actionable intelligence from cattle prodding these subhuman scum.

 

He wouldn't even get her panties down before feeling the heel of her boot on his larynx.

 

Yes, having someone in charge who headed a torture program certainly boosts feminism. It shows that a woman can have a callous disregard for morality equal to that of any evil man.

 

OK, so you are trying to find an excuse for ignoring the astoundingly objectionable actions of the proposed CIA chief.

Are you really so empty that you're searching for ad hom used on people you like for that???

You're whole direction here has to be a fail. America can't afford that kind of nonsense.

 

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One would believe that the Right condoned and created torture after 9/11, especially when torture has been around since the beginning of man.

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Why are you attacking the messenger? I'm sure that you never uttered a word or blamed Bill Clinton for signing off on "Extraordinary Rendition" and was ordering shipping of people to Black sites.

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Extraordinary Rendition and U.S. Counterterrorism Policy
http://sttpml.org/wp-content/upload...rendition-and-us-policy-obama-viewcontent.pdf
The extraordinary rendition program in its current incarnation began in 1995 during the Clinton Administration and was designed by CIA officials heading the Usama bin Ladin Issue Station (originally codenamed Alec Station).8 Its primary goals were to take individuals off the streets that were known to be planning or have planned terrorist operations and to seize evidence in their possession at the time of capture.9
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During the early years of the program, very few people even knew extraordinary renditions were taking place. As of 1998, thirteen suspected international terrorists had been detained and delivered to the United States to stand trial.15 However, the program was expanded significantly after 9/11 because the political landscape had changed and the Bush administration was obliged to take increasingly aggressive actions to combat terrorism. These renditions only became public when exposed by inquisitive journalists. In 2004, then-CIA Director George Tenet testified to the 9/11 Commission that about seventy total renditions had occurred since 9/11, and all were sent to foreign countries.16 Later, it was determined that in certain cases, the United States Government seized persons and transferred them to countries where torture was common in detention facilities, leading some to call extraordinary rendition policy "outsourcing torture."17

 

I don't see a valid argument in ANYTHING you are saying or even implying here.

You keep resorting to political BS. Arguments like "Well, HE did it!" don't even work for 6 year olds.

So, you point to a bad policy of 20 years ago - a policy we learned does NOT work, that was promoted by the right wing, and that should never have been allowed. Then, you seem to imply that I must have agreed with that!!!

That's as ridiculous as suggesting I like slavery because antebellum Democrats supported it.

We KNEW it was illegal when we did it in Afg and in Iraq.

Bush created Guantanamo as a THIRD court that could ignore our constitution and our laws because of its location. In doing so, he stated that neither our civilian courts nor our military courts were capable of dealing with the issue. And, there is NO basis for that kind of nonsense.

So, we got abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, and the rest - recruiting fodder for the world to point to when recruiting enemies, proof of our total hypocrisy.

Sorry. NONE of that was acceptable. It was ALL a crime, perpetrated by the USA.

 

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Are you now claiming that Gitmo POW's/Detainees are tortured by the Military? The following is a little information that you may not have been informed.

"In the United States, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 codified the legal definition of this term and invested the U.S. President with broad discretion to determine whether a person may be designated an unlawful enemy combatant under United States law. The assumption that such a category as unlawful combatant exists is not contradicted by the findings of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia in the Celebici Judgment. The judgment quoted the 1958 International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) commentary on the Fourth Geneva Convention: Every person in enemy hands must be either a prisoner of war and, as such, be covered by the Third Convention; or a civilian covered by the Fourth Convention. Furthermore, "There is no intermediate status; nobody in enemy hands can be outside the law",[4] because in the opinion of the ICRC, "If civilians directly engage in hostilities, they are considered 'unlawful' or 'unprivileged' combatants or belligerents (the treaties of humanitarian law do not expressly contain these terms). They may be prosecuted under the domestic law of the detaining state for such action".[1][5]
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It is likely that if a competent tribunal under GCIII Article 5 finds they are an unlawful combatant, and if they are a protected person under GCIV, the Party to the conflict will invoke GCIV Article 5. In this case, the "unlawful combatant" does not have rights under the present Convention as granting them those rights would be prejudicial to the security of the concerned state. They do, however, retain the right "...to be treated with humanity and, in case of trial, shall not be deprived of the rights of fair and regular trial prescribed by the present Convention",[14]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_combatant

 

The callous disregard for morality belongs to the subhuman scum who flew planes into office buildings rwsulting in the instantaneous murder of 3,000 innocent people. They deserve all the torture we can dish out. Or are you conveniently ignoring the largest mass murder in U. S. history?