Trump Accuses Democrats Of 'Executing Babies After Birth

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  1. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Sanctity of life, if real, should include a concern for the welfare of the young people who get pregnant while engaged in the wholly natural act of exploring their sexuality. How is it descent to incarcerate her for terminating an unwanted & unexpected pregnancy & ruining her life by extinguishing her ability to follow her dreams? You have compassion for the unborn fetus, but lack compassion for the young, innocent, life that will be ruined by your narrow-minded extremism. I don't see your position as "Pro-Life." I see it as simply, & exhaustively Pro-Fetus." Few Pro-Lifers care about that life once it's born. Few Pro-Lifers care about the young woman whose life they're willing to trash to make their point. Few Pro-Lifers care about the human rights they negate in their narrow focus on fetal rights. Few Pro-Lifers recognize the hypocrisy they practice by bringing government force into play as the instrument of choice to impose their will over the majority of Americans who disagree with them.
     
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    Who is “killing” eight and nine month old foetuses?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It might be happening, but we don't know. No one is keeping track of it.
     
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    we would hear about it

    course after birth if the parents are poor

    "Bush Criticized for End-of-Life Laws"


    https://web.archive.org/web/20051219170102/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

    "But on March 15, a Texas law signed by then-Gov. George W. Bush (search) in 1999 allowed the hospital to go ahead and take Sun off the respirator in defiance of Wanda Hudson's wishes."
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What makes you think we would?
    It happens in the privacy of an abortion clinic after all. There's a few states who likely wouldn't want to do anything about it.
    No sting operations are being conducted.

    I do have documented stories about women getting mid-term abortions for all sorts of ridiculous reasons, long after they shouldn't be getting an abortion.
     
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    word of mouth, someone would leak that
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're automatically assuming that, I don't think it's necessarily the case.

    You don't realize how moral compromise works. First they might start on 15 week fetuses, then 16, then 20, then eventually work their way up to 24. Now they're toeing the line, maybe they'll stretch and do one at 25 for a teen girl that was the victim of incest. Well since they already did that, why not go for 26 weeks?
    The sense of right and wrong gets numbed with each abortion you do. Eventually the people involved don't think anything of it, it's normal. They do this for a living. They're helping women. It's her right, after all.
    Late-term abortions can be pretty lucrative for those with less morals.

    I'm not claiming it's common place, but it does probably happen.

    How long did it take them to figure out something was wrong at Gosnell's clinic?
     
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    Coulda woulda shoulda DIDN’T

    You have no proof of this happening to healthy viable foetuses

    Meanwhile - how many born babies die through lack of health care and social support

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    well I posted a republicans law allowing it after birth if the parents are too poor for the medical bills

    not just the law, but a case of it happening because of the law against the parents wishes
     
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    WTF???

    This is just plain weird

    1) abortions after viability are illegal in most states in the USA and where they ARE legal they are strictly controlled
    2) why would women WANT to have abortions later?
    3) make abortion illegal and all restrictions are off. You will see fathers dragging daughters into back alley abortionists, just like what happened with Gosnell
     
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    That doesn't necessarily mean the authorities are anxious to prosecute them.
    If the state passed a law allowing it at 24 weeks, do you really think they'd be all that concerned if it happened at 25 or 26 weeks?

    There's a whole cornucopia of terrible reasons, but that's a discussion for another thread.
     
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    They have been prosecuted

    Remember Gosnell?

    As I said when they are already acting outside the law there are no limits so you will see a rise in the price of abortion when it is done illegally and a subsequent increase of later abortions and abandoned babies
     
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    What shocked the jury most during that trial was not what Gosnell did but what was legal.

    The prosecutor presented all sorts of shocking things in front of the jury. Half of it was legal. The jury had to be instructed exactly what was legal so they could determine which shocking conduct of Gosnell was a crime and what wasn't.
     
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    Sarcasm, I like it!!!!!!
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    AGAIN, you cannot read minds and really have no idea what shocked the jury... or realize the fact that even if shocked it had nothing to do with what was legal or not.....DUH, yes, sometimes legal and illegal have to be explained to juries in particular cases...that is not unusual since jury members are not all attorneys..
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Naww, let's answer it here and now...it is on topic...and NO Anti-Choicer has ever been able to answer it...why don't YOU be the FIRST!!!!!

    Bowerbird said:
    2) why would women WANT to have abortions later?
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:


    You make great points and here is a good one that more people should be made to realize:

    3) make abortion illegal and all restrictions are off.
     
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    Apparently a lot of New Yorkers. So much so they passed a law allowing it.
     
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    Idiotic actually. If someone wants to go beyond the restrictions now, according to your logic, they will because laws mean nothing to aborting women. .
     
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    And have any babies been killed?

    You of course DO know the difference between palliative care and murder don’t you?

    Meanwhile where are the crowds of pro lifers calling for a reduction in the infant mortality rate?
     
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    Gosnell acted outside of the law

    If what he was doing was legal then what is he serving jail time?

    If there had been the correct oversight (seems Gosnell was paying people to look the other way) then he would have been stopped much sooner.

    You want to stop late term abortion? Keep it legal
     
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    Why would such a law even be considered unless someone wanted this to be available. Logic, try it!

    Sure palliative care is to ease the suffering of terminally ill people. No application to abortion in any way. So it isn’t ME who doesn’t know what it is.

    What is this irrelevant squeaking about infant mortality rate and why are you running off on tangents? One cannot support the wanton killing of children in utero, then have any credibility claiming to care about the wellbeing of newborns.
     
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