Trump Cites Progress In Keeping Carrier Air Conditioning Plant In Indiana

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  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Goodman is now foreign owned but they make several comparable products to Carrier at a lower price point at their Texas facility.
     
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    we only tax profits, any more reinvested is not taxed

    that said, I agree, if we taxed all investment income over 20k per year as regular income, we could stop taxing corps

    you know it was a 1%er that said we shoudl tax labored income more

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  3. Robert

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    Why you suppose that to the Democrats, the cash belonging to others is a target rich environment?

    So long as they shun curtailing spending, but only move to higher and higher spending, they will clamor the public for more taxes. Which we shall resist.
     
  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That Henry Ford story has been debunked. He raised wages to save money paid to train new people. He kept losing workers thus raised prices to keep them at the plants.

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    [MENTION=63572]Margot2[/MENTION], for heavens sake, GW Bush is long gone. Come back where you really belong. Get away from Democrats. You did not believe them for decades. They are not changed.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Corporations clearly would have more money for payroll but for higher income taxes.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If corporations were not fighting hard to survive, they would remain here in the USA.

    So long as they fight to live, they will live where able to live.

    So far as I am aware, no tax in China is over 10 percent.

    Democrats ideology got so greedy and so spend happy at the government level, I wonder if in 50 years there will be such a thing as an American corporation.
     
  7. Margot2

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    LOL.. Thank you I guess.

    Carrier is a good company and they aren't going to react to Trump's tweets.
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [MENTION=70181]Seth Bullock[/MENTION]; [MENTION=63572]Margot2[/MENTION]; [MENTION=63456]AmericanNationalist[/MENTION]; [MENTION=70081]PARTIZAN1[/MENTION]

    For the same reason we do not tax government, we need a zero tax on corporations.

    Actually in the case of Corporations, they are a net giver to the country. Government is a net taker.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...als-don-t-pay-taxes-but-citizens-don-t-object
     
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    they will manufacture where it is most profitable to manufacture plain and simple. If Trump reduces operating costs by getting rid of red tape and useless regulations while dropping the tax they pay on their profits they will stay. Not to mention the good will they will generate by putting a made in America decal on their units because not everyone who lives in America hates it
     
  10. PARTIZAN1

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    I do not think I ever heard anyone argue that the minimum wage actually drags down wages but I can see where you can make an argument. Thinking about it I will say that it probably dies both in that it artificially pushes up thecwages of the very unskilled but I can see where industries could use the minimum wage as a ceiling firvsone classes of jobs. Yet in order to achieve as you say a living wage we would need a strong and sustained economic recovery and to start to manufacture products here. We will havev severe difficulties in returning jobs so we should push into. Ew technology such as renewable energy and not let the Chinese take away our development as they did with solar panels. Sad to say that too often the the extremists on the right have poisoned the minds of people and industries such as solor was poo poohed the the extremists. Intelligent use of tax laws woukd help greatly. Just slashing taxes will not sustain job growth either. The Democratic idea and mantra of mist Democrat that job training will do it us BS since why train for jobs that do not exist. If we stimulate renewable energy industries with tax incentives and they get going and expanding we coukd yes tax rebates to promote job training by industry. Thatvwould be training for jobs tatvarecthere not training fir jobs that you wish or dream were there.
     
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    before wasting time on solar panels might want to work on a way to make the sun shine 24 hours a day. Or we could just use natural gas which we have plenty of and the technology available right now
     
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    I put solar panels on my house in 1979 when I had five kids at home.. We never ran out of hot water.
     
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    You must really hate you felliw American if all you can ever fart out is to accuse Americans of hating their own country. You seem to confuse being honestly critical with hate for their conytry.

    I hear the mantra of a certain segment of our population that all we have to do to cut regulations and and profits will flow likecwatwr over Niagra Falks. Why don't those industries that feel regulations are causing them to move overseas or regulations are oaralying their profit identify which regulation are bad and have Congress bgetvrid of them if a change in the law is required .
     
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    And this is your video in having someone like Trump as president as president. If it only listen to the money to end of town then you may very well see wages slump as company profits go up. Profits which will go overseas
     
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    Being a disabled vet does not give you carte blanche to say and do whatever you want to whomever you want. McCain is the original RINO, a vicious hate filled little man who will stab anyone in the back who gets in his way and lie about anything if he thinks it will benefit him politically. He has the blood of thousands of victims of illegal immigrants who have been assaulted, murdered or molested as children each time he blocked any attempt to secure the border and round up illegals. Trump's attacks on him were directed at him alone not all vets as Trump as made very clear so do not be dishonest about his intent when he went after a vicious little lying troll like McCain.
     
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    Those were merely very very expensive water heaters. I once owned some of them. The cost was as if Bandits showed up to sell them.
     
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    Photoelectric solar is not a waste of time and we could stimulate technological development and growth Also to make photoelectric techlogy would be more useful and efficient if we had battery storage that could hold the generating electricity fir when the sun is down. Maybe there are better ways than what we know as a battery to store electric power. Why do you want to bury your head in the sand instead of thinking outside the box. It us true that fir now there is plenty of gas but that will not last forever. Using your logic you woukd gave poo poohed the idea of using oil as an energy source because in the 19 century we had what looked like an unlimited supply of trees. We used wood to fire steam locomotives so why develope oil, right!

    We should not have developed atomic energy since we had plenty of oil, right.

    Edit: I meant Photovolteic
     
  18. Robert

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    McCain deeply offended me when he gave vicious attacks against G.W. Bush in his run at the Bush job.

    Trump though got away from decency when he attacked McCain over being a prisoner. It was not as if John walked into a prison camp and turn himself in. And he suffered over wearing his officers uniform.

    I am not able to recover from McCains smarmy attacks on G. W. Bush and perhaps Don also feels that way.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    The solar panels of the 1970's were old tech with hot water. Phovoltaic replaced them.
     
  20. Robert

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    I dunno since to me the private party already has full rights to make his own electricity, using any means.

    I wondering what will happen to corporation jobs in the power industry? Well we drive out commercial electric firms only to later lament the loss of jobs?

    As to Solar panels, they are in my view the thing the rich can afford. I don't know the base costs to the installers but they are so high price that the government feels compelled to pay subsidies or pay in part the costs.

    If they work so well, why is the price so high for such small power?
     
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    you got a magic battery to make it work 24 and 7, otherwise you better have a alternative thermal energy source such as NG or coal to get you through times the sun is not at the right angle or not shining. Or be prepared to do without electricity, your choice
     
  22. Robert

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    Those I owned merely were plastic tanks of water depending on the sun to heat the water. Reflectors focused the Sun.

    If you now say water heaters are photovoltaic electric, that I don't know about.

    I have also had one of those so am not saying they don't exist. You can buy an electric water heater from many sources.
     
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    I do not recall McCain attacking W in the least bit. W's people and a pair of Texas filth attacked McCain and even made up stories that his adopted daughter was an Afro American and that she was his illegitimate child.

    What evidence do you have of any "vucious" m
    McCain attack on W?
     
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    What I specifically object to are American corporations manufacturing overseas for the U.S. market. I would give no tax break for that. What I would make tax exempt would be the profits from in-USA operations. That would go for any corporation, foreign or domestic. You make it here, there is no tax on the profits.
     
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    And yet hundreds of thousands of Aussie homes have them and swear by them. Sounds like you got fiddled. Or you expected more from them
     

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