Trump is begging to be impeached due to extreme incompetence and naiveté

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  1. mitchscove

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    The same Democrats who staged the pre-Inauguration protest and the million vagina march, two protests promoted by Russian trolls and carried out by Democrats. Putin wasn't done taking advantage of Democrats' visceral hatred for people who embrace the America built on the foundation created in 1776.
     
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    I am surprised that you still don't know the facts about Uranium One. Canadian Frank Guistra wanted to sell his mining operations in Khazakstan and insisted the buyer also take his small US operations.

    Uranium One was a Canadian company NOT an American one.

    None of the uranium mined in the US (and it is a tiny production) can be sold outside the US.

    There was NO compelling reason to prevent the sale of 20% of US capacity... Hillary Clinton had nothing to do with the Committee on Foreign Investments in the US...

    We continue, as before the sale, to buy most of the uranium we import from Khazikstan.
     
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    Funnnneeeeeee!!!

    Yeah suuuuuuuure!!

    Just look at this board and it is easy to see who posts in Russian prime tkme
     
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    There is one right there! On this forum alone there are near a hundred of Trump hater fantasies every day. You say there are none because you define the fantasies as reality.
     
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    Still standing on your fantasy that roughly 75% of the American people opposed Trump's policies?
     
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    Then don't question my reasons for his impeachment if you haven't even read them.
     
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    No need to. There are no grounds for impeachment.
     
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    Last Wednesday Trump wrote an Executive Order that violated a court order. Since the judicial branch is equal in stature to the executive branch, Trump's EO violated the Separations of Power Principle of our Constitution.

    On Sunday he violated the due process provision of the Fifth Amendment when he tweeted, "We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came. Our system is a mockery to good immigration policy and Law and Order. Most children come without parents..."

    The Fifth Amendment reads, "No person shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

    Please note, this protection applies to all "persons" -- not merely to citizens. This point is reinforced by the Fourteenth Amendment, which affirms that the class of "persons" entitled to constitutional protection encompasses citizens and non-citizens alike.

    No doubt members of Trump's cult will be cheering Trump's aggressiveness in attempting to keep out foreigners. To them, it does not matter that Trump insists on violating our Constitution. His cult maintains that laws and the Constitution do not apply to him.

    However, as the title of this thread reads, Trump is begging to be impeached. He longer cares. All he cares about now is the adulation he gets from his gullible, bigoted base.

    Which explains why he is holding three pep rallies in less than a week, Duluth on the 20th, Las Vegas on the 23rd, and South Carolina today, the 25th. Trump likes to be with his adoring admirers.

    Beats me what they are adoring.
     
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    Uh, huh.
     
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    Whoever told you this lied to you.
     
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    That, and the Democrats will not win 20 out of the 8 GOP Senate seats up for election in 2018.
     
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    Every time I hear someone describe Trump supports as a "cult" it makes me that more inclined to support the man even though I detest him.

    I imagine that is true for a number of people.
     
  13. Sandy Shanks

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    It is a cult. Like you, members of his cult rarely attack the issues. Like you, members of his cult attack the writer who had the temerity to provide the issues.

    They support support Trump, but they can't support his policies.

    That is why they are members of a cult.
     
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    Whether or not an impeachment charge can be made of this is in serious question, but Trump's trade wars cause by the tariffs he imposed is wreaking havoc on our economy. The Dow shed 328 points, or 1.3%. That is the ninth loss in the past ten days. Then there is Harley Davidson.

    Harley Davidson earlier today said it will be shifting production to its international facilities of motorcycles that are headed to Europe in order to avoid paying a 25 percent tariff on its way into the European market. Brussels levied that penalty in response to Trump's tariffs on steel and aluminum imports. Spokesperson Michael Pflughoeft said the company was "assessing the potential impact" on jobs, but it can't be good.

    There is a good reason why HD is doing this. Americans are trending toward smaller bikes, and the market is down. Europeans like the larger bikes. There is a 2.3% growth in international sales compared to a 3.9% decline in U.S. sales.

    Trump's reaction was expected. He lied and he seems a bit misinformed. "Surprised that Harley-Davidson, of all companies, would be the first to wave the White Flag," Trump wrote on Twitter. Trump obviously is ignorant of good business practices. HD said the duties meant an increased cost of $2,200 on each motorcycle heading into Europe, which is the company's largest market.

    He wasn't through making himself look foolish and ignorant. Trump noted in his post that he "fought hard for" Harley-Davidson and that "ultimately they will not pay tariffs selling into the E.U., which has hurt us badly on trade." Trump hurt us badly in trade. Trump did not fight hard for HD, which uses steel and aluminum. With his 25% steel tariff and 10% aluminum tariff, he "fought hard for" jobs in the steel and aluminum industry. He was warned by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce that for every job his tariffs saved, 16 would be lost.

    "Ultimately they will not pay tariffs selling into the E.U." It was not immediately clear what he meant, given that Brussels did include motorcycles on its final list of products that were hit with retaliatory tariffs beginning Friday. A White House spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a request for clarification.

    I'm being polite.

    HD is based in Milwaukee. How did the leaders of the free trade Republican Party react to Trump's tariffs that ultimately cost jobs in Wisconsin? They expressed regret, but the sheep did not dare challenge Trump.

    A spokeswoman for House Speaker Paul Ryan, of Wisconsin, says Harley’s decision is “further proof of the harm from unilateral tariffs.” AshLee Strong says the best way to help American workers, consumers and manufacturers is to open new markets and not raise barriers.

    Fellow Republican Gov. Scott Walker echoed the comments.

    Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) blamed China. “Unfortunately, this confirms my concerns and is a far too predictable outcome of policies [Trump's policies] that give companies like Harley-Davidson incentives to make their products elsewhere. We need to hold China accountable for its trade abuses, but that does not need to come at the expense of American workers and businesses.”

    INCREDIBLE!

    David Kelly, chief global strategist at JPMorgan Funds said that the United States is now working on "trade conflicts on multiple fronts," and failure to reach resolutions could lead to "constant conflict for potentially years to come."

    Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell said last week that the central bank is hearing for the first time from businesses about postponed investment, hiring and decision making because of trade worries. "That's a new thing," Powell said.

    Can Trump be impeached for sheer incompetence?
     
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    First
    I support most of the polices President Trump has advocated so I can't attack on the issues.

    Second
    Why respond to what you post regarding President Trump? You'll simply ignore any defense of President Trump and start three new threads making the same argument.
    Ask yourself, how many times have you bitched and moaned about the number of press conferences that Trump has? I stopped counting when it reached the double digits.
     
  16. Sandy Shanks

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    I said, "I'm betting that he is. He can't define one fantasy provided by me."

    And you didn't.
     
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    Fine, I tear into his tariff policy in post #241.Support it. What did I get wrong?

    While you are at it, then there is post #235. Support Trump. Again, what did I get wrong?

    That is simply a lie. I actually enjoy when someone challenges the issues I raise, but that is extremely rare.

    Want proof? Look at the replies on the last two pages.
     
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    Blah! Blah! Blah!
     
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    I wouldn't have guessed.
     
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    More delusion Shanks? So Trump putting Conservatives on the Bench is strictly for his Base, huh? Picking Gorsuch was for his base. Trump Keeping Promises to the Blue Dog Demos over Coal Mining and the Steel Industry is strictly for his base eh? His promise for Religious Freedom to Evangelicals is strictly for his base.....Not!

    False Trump didn't hand Lil Kim a key Diplomatic victory.


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    No wonder you have that problem with credibility. To much TDS.
     
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    I did.
    Predictably, you ignored it.
     
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    I was speaking about events, decisions, and statements as reported by journalists, not an opinion. That's why your post was ignored. Your reading comprehension was faulty. Nearly all Trump cultists disagree with my opinions. That doesn't make them fantasies.
     
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    No. It was ignored because you made a fantastic claim of fact you know you cannot support.
     
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    Courtesy of another poster, here are links to two very important articles.

    http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-impeachment-approval-rating-991900

    The Newsweek article stated, "President Donald Trump is a mere 1 percentage point away from former commander in chief Richard Nixon when it comes to the number of Americans who want him impeached, according to a new poll released Friday.

    "Forty-two percent of those polled answered that Trump “should be impeached,” compared to 51 percent who answered they “don’t feel that way” and 7 percent who registered no opinion. Five months before Nixon would eventually leave office in disgrace over the Watergate scandal, 43 percent of Americans thought he should be impeached, per a poll from March 1974.

    "The current poll also reflected a 39 percent approval rating for Trump, his lowest mark in the SRSS poll since February, when it was 35 percent. Results from March and May were far stronger, at 42 and 41 percent, respectively."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-new-poll-confirms-it/?utm_term=.4e426202820b

    The Post article reported, "Because so many of us got it wrong in 2016, we often adopt a kind of defensive crouch as we interpret the current political moment. But what if the normal rules are on track to holding? What if Trump, despite his small uptick in the polls, really is deeply unpopular, and a backlash against Trump really is the driving factor in our politics right now." Note: As seen by the Newsweek article, the small uptick in the polls has been wiped out.

    The Post article continues, "A new NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll suggests this might be the case. It finds that Democrats lead among registered voters nationally in the House generic ballot matchup by 50 percent to 40 percent.

    "But even more tellingly, the poll finds that by a whopping margin of 48-23, voters are more likely to support a congressional candidate who promises to be a check on Trump. And by 53-31, they are less likely to vote for a candidate who has supported Trump’s positions more than 90 percent of the time.

    "By 52-19, voters in competitive House districts are more likely to support a congressional candidate who promises to be a check on Trump. By 55-28, voters in competitive House districts are more likely to support a congressional candidate who has opposed Trump most of the time."

    Wow! Double wow!
     
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    I wrote this post on Sunday. It mentioned several lapses in policy created by Trump.

    A recent Gallup Poll shows that 90% of Republicans approve of Trump. https://news.gallup.com/poll/235751/trump-job-approval-tying-personal-best.aspx

    What are they approving? His tariffs policy has cause trade wars with China, Canada, Mexico, and the 28 countries of the EU. His summit with Kim Jong Un was no more than a glorified photo op during which Trump gave Kim three major concessions while Kim gave none, his immigration policy is a PR disaster, the White House is in chaos, the turnover rate for members of his staff is over 45%, and even though Congress is controlled by his party, he can't get any major legislation through except the tax bill. Health care is a disaster, and so is infrastructure. He refuses to hold regular press conferences because he is afraid of the White House press corps. He is the first President in 40 years to refuse to reveal his tax returns. He is being investigated by the special prosecutor for collaboration with a hostile foreign power and obstruction of justice.

    When his supporters are confronted with these issues, they run and hide, change the subject, make wisecracks, and/or provide cartoons. When faced with real issues, they can't approve of Trump.

    So, I ask, what are they approving? His good looks? His sexy First Lady? His bigotry? His xenophobia?


    There have many replies from Trump fans since that post. Not one defended Trump.

    I can't imagine that. If I supported a President, and someone was critical of that President, I would enthusiastically defend the President I supported. But that is not true of Trump fans, and they prove that over and over again.
     
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