Trump is begging to be impeached due to extreme incompetence and naiveté

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    Trump Admits Affair With Stormy Daniels, "Melania Had The Baby And I Had My Needs"


    White House Chief of Staff, John Kelly, sat down with Fox News' Sean Hannity to discuss the meeting.

    By now, most of the country is aware of the accusation that President Trump had an affair with pornographic actress, Stormy Daniels, in 2006, shortly after his wife, Melania Trump, gave birth to their son, Barron, and that President Trump paid her a sum of $130,000 a month before the 2016 presidential election to keep the details of their encounter quiet.

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    Meaningless drivel.
    Unless the Dems win 20 of the 8 GOP senate seats up for election in 2018, Trump isn't going anywhere before 2021.
     
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    Trump told his gullible, fanatic fans in South Carolina yesterday, "They came to me three days ago and they said, ‘Sir, we’d like you to sign this order.’ What is the order? ‘We need 5000 judges on the border.’ Here they want 5000. I said, ‘Where are you going to find 5000 people to be judges? How many do we have now?’ ‘I don’t know the number.’ They don’t even know the number even though they’re in charge. Nobody knows the number. We have thousands of judges already…I said, ‘I don’t want judges. I want ICE and Border Patrol agents.'" In blissful ignorance, his fans cheered wildly.

    It's all a lie. Esquire Magazine tells us, "There is no “they.” This meeting never happened. Nobody ever told him that we needed 5,000 judges. As it happens, there have not been 5,000 judges in the entire history of the federal court system. There are only a little less than 900 judges working in the federal system now, so we do not have “thousands of judges already.” And the phantom “they” are wrong about how many judges we have handling these cases now. Congress has authorized 484 of these judges, and less than 400 are presently working. This whole passage is one bald-faced non-fact after another."

    What a clown. This is our President.
     
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    Pathetic. On a thread you started, you got caught in a lie. This is your attempt at revenge for being caught. It would have been better if you had stayed silent.
     
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    The House impeaches. If the Dems win the House, this could get interesting, particularly because Trump keeps digging himself a deeper hole. The only thing he had going for him was the economy even though he has done nothing for the economy. Now he is doing his level best to destroy our economy with the various trade wars he started.

    He is inept when it comes to foreign policy. He makes enemies of our friends while trying vainly to make friends of our enemies. He is easy pickings for Putin, Kim and Xi. All they have to do is feed his giant ego, and Trump becomes putty in their hands.

    Oh, yes, it could get quite interesting as many people with different political views want to get rid of this guy, even some Republicans.
     
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    Shanks.....tsk tsk. You were put in check on that thread. Its not my fault you couldn't comprehend what the GOP research was about. Even with you saying how you use to be a Republican. Your own Key words. Use to be.

    Now you get checked in this thread as to what you were deluded about with Trumps Base. Especially if you now consider all Blue Dogs to be part of Trumps base. Oh and all those Constitutionalists too.

    Then there is that matter of your false assessment on Trump with N Korea and Lil Kim. As usual, you fail with your dumpage on Trump.
     
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    Which means absolutely nothing, absent removal by the senate.
    You didn't know this?
     
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    I would guess you did not count the almost 500 administrative law judges assigned to immigration cases......
     
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    What are you talking about? Do you know?
     
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    Yeah, so, what is your point? That is a far cry from 5,000 THEY want to hire, according to Trump.
     
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    I'm talking about this fantasy you have abut the house impeaching trump and how it is supposed to mean something.
    He wont be removed from office, so any impeachment is a waste of time and nothing more.
    How do you not know this?
     
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    Trump will be impeached because he wrote and executive order that violates our Constitution, the separation of powers principle. He wrote an order that conflicts with a court order, two of them. Apparently, he doesn't know what any average sixth grader knows. The judicial branch of our government is equal in stature to the executive branch. The President cannot write an order that openly violates a court order. Trump even admitted the violation in the EO.

    Did you ever think we would live to see the day that George Will called for Democrats to take over both houses of Congress? Impossible, but it has happened.

    George Will, a longtime political commentator and staunch defender of the conservative movement, tore into the Republican Party, citing the party’s support for Trump in the upcoming 2020 Presidential election while acting like sycophants to the erratic, impulsive, and incompetent President.

    On Friday, Will published a column in the Washington Post explaining his view. The column, titled Vote against the GOP this November, argued that the number of Republicans in Congress “must be substantially reduced.”

    He wrote, "Amid the carnage of Republican misrule in Washington, there is this glimmer of good news: The family-shredding policy along the southern border, the most telegenic recent example of misrule, clarified something. Occurring less than 140 days before elections that can reshape Congress, the policy has given independents and temperate Republicans the principle by which they should vote.

    "The principle: The congressional Republican caucuses must be substantially reduced."

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    He wont be removed from office, so any impeachment is a waste of time and nothing more.
    How do you not know this?
     
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    If Trump is impeached, it will mean something. That is why you don't want it to happen. Impeaching Trump will be political P.R. disaster for the Republican Party, and they deserve it. They allowed right wing extremists to take control of their party.

    I am a moderate conservative, an Eisenhower/Reagan conservative. I voted Republican for a quarter of a century. The GOP no longer represents me due to their extremism. The election of an incompetent, naive, narcissistic far right wing idiot to the Presidency proves my point.

    I never once said he would be convicted by the Senate. That is beside the point.
     
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    Yes. The House of representatives wasted a bunch of time and effort.
    Nothing more.
     
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    My point was that you misstated the number of judges as did Trump. So does that make you two even?
     
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    Trump is begging to be impeached. He is interfering in a DOJ and FBI investigation of himself, the DOJ part being the special prosecutor whose investigation Trump has labeled a "witch hunt."

    Trump has demanded that the Department of Justice investigate whether the FBI “infiltrated or surveilled” his campaign for political purposes. The I.G. report showed that assertion was utter nonsense. Nevertheless, this will eventually force a clash between the DOJ and the President, as Trump continues to use his power to influence or impede the special counsel investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 Presidential campaign.

    That is a clear case of obstruction of justice.

    Trying to shift the focus from the Russian probe, House Republicans today continued their assault on FBI agents who have been gone for a year or more and an investigation of Clinton's server that was put to bed two years ago and with no new evidence to bring it back to life, just innuendo, questions, and a lot of political B.S. The Republicans were a bit too aggressive. They would ask Rosenstein a question, then would not allow him to complete his answer as if they were afraid of the answer to the question they asked.

    The battle has raged for weeks between Trump’s conservative allies in the House of Representatives and the Department of Justice over documents related to the Russia investigation — egged on by tweets from the President himself.

    Their main purpose is to get the documents related to the Russian probe and turn the evidence over to Trump's lawyers. Trump is doing all he can to help with the effort. "A Rigged System - They don’t want to turn over Documents to Congress. What are they afraid of? Why so much redacting? Why such unequal “justice?” At some point I will have no choice but to use the powers granted to the Presidency and get involved!" Trump tweeted.
    Adding, "I have tried to stay uninvolved with the Department of Justice and FBI :roflol:o_O (although I do not legally have to), because of the now totally discredited and very expensive Witch Hunt currently going on. But you do have to ask why the DOJ & FBI aren’t giving over requested documents? [emoticons are mine]"

    That is a clear case of obstruction of justice.

    Quietly, without fanfare, Mueller is taking notes. He is letting Trump and Giuliani do all the talking. When the time comes ...
     
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    Man, talk about a high class vaudeville song and dance. When a special investigator (Mueller) is charged to go find something somewhere (the only special prosecutor who was not given specific crimes to look into) that is a textbook definition of a witch hunt. The fact that Trump calls it a witch hunt and you hate trump has no bearing whatsoever.

    The IG did not look into the Russian probe, but holler to the high heavens all you want; maybe someone will be swayed.

    The Clinton email server investigation was "put to bed" long ago when Comey announced that Hillary committed a felony but she was not going to be charged.
     
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    The Senate intelligence committee concluded in May that it agrees with the U.S. intelligence agencies’ assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 Presidential election to hurt the candidacy of Democrat Hillary Clinton and help President Donald Trump. Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., chairman of the Senate panel, said his staff spent 14 months “reviewing the sources, tradecraft and analytic work” conducted by the intelligence agencies. He said the committee uncovered no reason to dispute the conclusions of the intelligence assessment released in 2017.

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo stated that he backs the finding by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia meddled in the U.S. Presidential campaign to hurt Hillary Clinton and ultimately help Donald Trump.

    Dan Coats, the Trump appointed director of national intelligence, told the Senate Intelligence Committee that Russia believes it did so well trying to influence the 2016 presidential election that it will try to do so again as hundreds of politicians contest for House and Senate seats throughout the year.

    “Trump got to experience Putin looking him in the eyes and lying to him, denying Russian interference in the election,” Trump’s new national security adviser John Bolton said.

    Trump believes the Kremlin. "Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!," Trump tweeted.

    "Every time he [Putin] sees me he says, 'I didn't do that, and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it," Trump said.

    Members of Trump's gullible fan club won't even blink at these revelations. I clearly do not understand that reaction.
     
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    All Trump defenders can do is lie and use their ignorance. Poster has absolutely no idea of the parameters of the Mueller investigation. Poster just made that up.

    That is true, which is why I never said it did.

    Poster is siding with Trump who is siding with the Kremlin.
     
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    Liar! Liar! Pants on fire! Is that the best retort you have???
    Mueller's appointment letter is public and simply states to look into Russian efforts to interfere with the election. He has since received non-public authorization from Rosenstein to look into other matters. But he is the first special/independent prosecutor to be appointed without a specific crime to investigate. A non specific open ended investigation is, as I said, a textbook definition of witch hunt.

    "Trump has demanded that the Department of Justice investigate whether the FBI “infiltrated or surveilled” his campaign for political purposes. The I.G. report showed that assertion was utter nonsense," is what you said. So you said the IG had worked on the Russian interference, which is what the campaign infiltration is about, but now you say the IG did not look into the Russian probe. Can't be both.
     
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    It is patently obvious that the grounds for Trump's impeachment are getting stronger and stronger.

    So, members of Trump's cult wish to avoid that reality. This was posted on three different threads. Trump's fans would not touch it.

    Yet, they still support Trump. They are either communists, Russian sympathizers, anarchists, or a combination of same. There is no other conclusion.
     
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    Why haven't you come to terms with the fact Trump will not be removed form office?
     
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    There was nothing, as in zero, in your post that even touched on a case for impeachment. You listed none, as in zero, high crimes and misdemeanors committed by Trump, or any law breaking of any kind.
     
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    Trump should be impeached because he is both incompetent and stupid.

    Business Insider reports, "John Melendez, the comedian who hosts "The Stuttering John Podcast," said he prank called President Donald Trump and got a call back from him on Air Force One.

    "Melendez said the call took place Wednesday evening, as Trump was flying back from a rally in North Dakota. Melendez apparently got through by pretending to be Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey.

    "When he finally got Trump on the line, after interacting with several White House operators, Melendez asked the president questions about immigration and Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy's plan to retire.

    "Melendez said the White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, called him back and got the president on the phone for the comedian."

    Trump has placed Kushner, who doesn't seem concerned about communications security, in charge of negotiating Middle East peace. :banana::roflol:o_O

    Come on, now that is funny.
     
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