Trump Says He Is Halting FEMA Wildfire Aid To Calif.

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  1. Robert

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    You won't find our Democrats in Sacramento helping the fire victims. This is google list of helpers.

    How gift cards are helping survivors of California's deadliest fire

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  2. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you drunk?? No idea what you are talking about here.
     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get annoyed at having to use baby talk to get Democrats to grasp things I say.

    Sigh

    We have fire victims here in CA. i live in CA. Get it yet?
    I expected my governor to help the fire victims. Get it yet?
    Brown has refused. Do you understand?
    Newsom the new Democrat governor has not mentioned them. Our state government is silent as if it never happened. With me so far?

    Why beg Trump and the clowns in DC until my state with a huge surplus kicks in?

    And I am not counting our rainy day fund.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well...perhaps if you speak ENGLISH than we would understand. You are typing gibberish and expect people to understand what you are on about? Go sober up.

    Duh!!!


    And?

    Where/ how did he refused. Do tell.

    Mentioned what? How do you know he isn't helping??

    More than half of the forest land in the state is OWNED BY THE FEDS. If these fires fall into areas where the FEDS were supposed to maintain them and they didn't like Trump have claimed, then it's the FEDS that need to pay for the damages. Do you understand???

    Seriously, why are you and yours ok with us sending billions to Israel and Saudi Arabia, but not ok to send millions to help your own citizens?? Why don't you demand Trump to withdraw our money to these two "allies", then he can have his wall??
     
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  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What sort of gibberish are you now spewing? Gee tell me things I don't know. And don't ask me dumb questions. If you had proof Brown and Newsom were going to help, you would not talk about federal lands and such. By the way, we are talking about private property burned and not federal forest. What the hell made you think i was speaking of Federal lands? Any federal buildings on burned forest land will be replaced. and by Trump Got it yet?

    Talk about posting poorly. I see you love to talk is all.

    By the way, if you think Nancy and Chuck will agree to stop funding Israel, take a drink.

    By the way, speaking as if I drink won't get you a quarter's worth of mileage here.
     
  7. Robert

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    You called the Democrat woman Governor of LA during Katrina a Republican. Who told you that Governor Kathleen Blanco is a republican. They lied to you.

    Kathleen Babineaux Blanco

    Kathleen Blanco. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (born December 15, 1942) is an American politician who served as the 54th Governor of Louisiana from January 2004 to January 2008. A member of the Democratic Party, she is the first woman to have been elected as governor of Louisiana.
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't understand simple English and are posting gibberish what am I to assume? Your assertion is that BOTH Brown and Newsome refused to help. Why don't you prove it?

    I'm talking about Trump. He was more than happy to hand them both money. Your deflection about Nancy and Chuck is just that, since Trump approved and signed off on the money. Clearly he doesn't deemed the wall important enough ("emergency" as it was) to use that money toward the wall instead.

    Then make yourself clear instead of typing some deflection gibberish nonsense.
     
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    What geographical illiteracy

    Wildfires in California do occur each year. But even the recent largest fires in the westare little compared to the damage costs from the hurricane season where MULTIPLE ENTIRE STATES are damaged with plenty of devastated cities and area!

    Wildfires = 18 billion!
    Hurricanes = $265 BILLION

    We need a new category of cluelessness about Trump thinking - that $18 billion in losses is somehow thinking that $265 billion is a similar amount!

    What a Trump FAIL!

    https://www.jacksonville.com/news/2...e-2017-most-costly-us-disaster-year-on-record
     
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  10. Robert

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    Talk about the chicken who lays eggs but as a male can't do it.

    I spoke plain English so do not put the blame on me when you claimed you do not understand.
     
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    You've made an assertion you can't back up and so you deflect? You clearly said they REFUSED to help. Well prove it. I'm not holding my breath because I know you won't. Such as a your way to debate - make a claim and tell the other person to prove otherwise.

    Trump and Trump alone have the power to tell FEMA where to help. Where does Congress fits in to this per your silly assertion?? If Congress can do otherwise, then you are saying Trump is making a stupid empty threats??

    You don't know how ridiculous your responses sound.
     
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    No you have refused to show they did help or offer to help.

    Look my good man, i don't care one way or the other if you accept my word. if you doubt me that much, by this time you would use a link to prove i am wrong.

    I gave my opinion that they don't care. I worked my ass off trying to find anything showing they do care. I found private parties care.

    As to what Trump tells FEMA. you probably believe FEMA is not governed by federal law. Tell you this, I bet I can find FEMA helping the victims faster than you can find G. Brown or Newsom helping them.

    Race is on.


    https://www.fema.gov/news-release/2018/11/08/fema-fire-management-assistance-granted-camp-fire

    So Trump leaped in when the fires were burning. Ca thus far has not issued reports it helped.
    November 8, 2018
    Release Number:
    RIX-NR-18-26
    OAKLAND, Calif. — The U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has authorized the use of federal funds to assist the State of California to combat the Camp Fire burning in Butte County.

    On November 8, 2018, the State of California submitted a request for a Fire Management Assistance Declaration for the Camp Fire. At the time of the request, the fire was threatening 14,000 homes in and around the communities of Paradise, Pulga, Concow and Magalia. The fire was also threatening 1,000 businesses, communications/electrical assets, schools, hospitals, and railroad assets. Mandatory evacuations are taking place for approximately 30,000 people.
     
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    Damn you are tiresome. Since I gave plenty of opportunity to prove your point but didn't do so...here it is.

    Brown has ordered all state agencies and personnel necessary to respond to the fire and meet whatever requirements are necessary to provide relief. Aid has also been deployed from throughout the state and country, he said.

    “We can’t avoid a catastrophe but we can prepare for it, we can recover from it and we will,” Brown said. “I’ve issued an executive order today that will speed up recovery, cut red tape, overcome some regulations and other kinds of laws that get in our way because we have to clean up the debris, bind up our wounds and get with tomorrow.”


    https://www.chicoer.com/2018/11/14/...an-visit-to-devastated-paradise-butte-county/

    But of course, you are going to move your lousy goal posts since Brown and Newsom are...Democrats. All the while excusing Trump for his pathetic attempt at leaving his own countrymen to fend for themselves yet have the nerve to say he is here to "protect" Americans. You aren't fooling anyone with your nonsensical deflections.
     
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    Trump leaped in when the fires were roaring. I proved Trump jumped in fast.

    But you showed me that Brown wants the fire departments to do their jobs. Gee if i said that was all Trump wanted, you would have the right to scald me. But he put up money.

    Brown will cut red tape. And how does he plan to do that when communities have the red tape power?

    But you flat told a lie saying Trump did not care and did not help. You do not fool others than children.
     
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    So trump wants to **** over 12% of American citizens. Great.
     
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    Just 50 million. Go for it.
     
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    You missed the point, so I will repeat it: wildfires happen in California every year, and there are steps which can be taken to prevent wildfires. Hurricanes are random, with different hurricanes hitting different states (and years with no hurricanes at all) and nothing can be done to prevent hurricanes.

    You are trying to compare apples and bacon.
     
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    Bluesguy: After Katrina and Ivan my insurance denied me coverage. Another company picked it up but I have a special rider with Lloyd's of London for wind damage which cost me 4 times what my other coverage cost. The federal government is bailing me out or paying for my coverage."""


    :) :) :) So that's why you think every one else should pay !!! Sheer bitterness and envy :) :) :)
     
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    Unanswered question:




    Does FEMA control forestry for the US?
     
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    I have to cover my risk why not everyone else? Did the federal government come in and fix my roof after Ivan.................nope.
     
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    Sorry should have read
    The federal government isN'T bailing me out or paying for my coverage.

    So why should the federal government bail out those in CA who suffered losses in the wildfires?
     
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    People die in hurricanes and they don't come an cover my losses.
     
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    So it has nothing to do with this subject, why did you post it?
     
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    Trump thinks he is a dictator and his supporters are ok with him hurting people to get what he wants - it's really sad
     
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    FEMA helped Texas during their natural disasters, do you think a democrat president should no longer help republican states going forward... this should not be decided based on partisan politics, how sad
     
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