Trump's crazy designation of Antifa as terrorist organization

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Should Antifa be designated a terrorist organization

  1. Yes - the blood of many innocents is on the hands of ANTIFA

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  2. No - I can't recall too many deaths of innocents by ANTIFA

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  1. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that might work with a group on the street which fails to obey the order to disperse but whats giving AntiFa the designation of terrorist is the destruction of property the violence and arson not because they didn't disperse when lawfully told to
     
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  2. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    I love the voting poll: "Have you stopped beating your wife."
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's not the way it works. We just arrested their ass. You must of got the public relations web page.
     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    Destroying lives of people that have worked all their lives to build a business in the name of making a statement is terrorism.
     
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    It will work every time, but only if the police arrest, prosecute, convict and punish the criminals.
    These criminals operate under government/police protection.

    “A Baltimore man who cut a fire hose during rioting in 2015 was again spared prison time after violating his probation.

    Gregory Lee Butler Jr. was sentenced in November to three years of supervised release after pleading guilty to obstructing firefighters during a civil disorder. But he failed to comply with some conditions of his release, including passing regular drug tests and paying his $100-a-month restitution, according to the U.S. attorney’s office, which sought a yearlong prison sentence at a hearing Tuesday.”
    BALTIMORE SUN, Man who punctured fire hose during Baltimore riots is again spared prison time, By Jessica Anderson, 9/5/2017.
    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...butler-gas-mask-violation-20170905-story.html
     
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    Your definition is a fairy tale that you generated to minimize the disgusting actions or support and rationalize disgusting behavior by spoiled child minded individuals.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Think about that.
     
  8. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, about 104,435 people. But, they like it, and are in heaven not complaining at all. And they all loved Trump for making American great again.

    Only an insignificant 90,000 people here a LA Coliseum.
    [​IMG]
     
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    To me, the stupid thing about Trump's idea is that Antifa is not really an organisation at all. More of a movement, with many actual groups sharing some (but not all) of the ideals that fall under the broad "Antifa" banner.

    So the first problem is that, if it is not an organisation, what will actually change? There is no president, no membership list, no structure, no funding. So not really anyone to target.

    Second problem is that most people / organisations that sympathise with some of Antifa's goalrs are perfectly peaceful and non-violent.

    As far as I can see, "Antifa" is the same kind of (non-)organisation that "Conservatism" is. An ideology or set of principles rather than an actual organisation.
     
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    I don't think Trump's declaration of terrorists for that group is going to pass legal muster. It is too specific. ANTiFA has every right to protest just as much as the KKK. Now while the protests may get out of hand, does not make them terrorists.
     
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    IOW, you know that "spoiled child minded individuals" are not terrorists. ;-)

    The "child minded" can easily be regulated by competent adults who know what they are doing.

    Many good ways for quickly dealing with riots have been available for decades.

    “ • Antitraction Technology: Teflon-type environmentally neutral lubricants that make footholds or traction exceedingly difficult
    • Sticky Foam: Incredibly adhesive foam that immobilizes individuals
    • Anesthetics: Tranquilizers, dispensed with gas or darts, that could put people to sleep
    • Infrasound: Low-frequency sound generators that incapacitate individuals by causing nausea, disorientation, and bowel spasms
    • Microwave Transmitters: Directionally oriented devices that heat skin to an unbearable degree as people approach them
    This list represents only a portion of the new nonlethal riot-control technologies.”
    http://strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/parameters/Articles/96autumn/stanton.htm

    Corrupt, violence prone police under the command of corrupt politicians will always eventually be used to incite riots. These riots are just DP election cycle political rallies.
     
  12. Kyklos

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    So please put me on "ignore." It the button on my Avatar that says "ignore." Do you need help?
     
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    Again, don't really give a **** about what you think, really. You opinion is insignificant.
     
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    Well, that's the law, BUT THE LAW IS A WHORE LIKE TRUMP'S WIFE!
     
  15. Kyklos

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    Hey, I have an idea. Since you think so I will put you on igno.....
     
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    Your opinion means so little that I don't need to put you on ignore.
     
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    they are an organization with chapters an international organization whith a long history They all dress alike they all use the same tactics they share social media pages and they do receive outside funding and support
    you think these unemployed idiots can afford to drive from state to state provide their own food and housing with no funding?
    is it to much to ask for you liberals for once just use some common sense and critical thinking?
     
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    No, I did not. But there you again. You should try to avoid doing that.
     
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    You are going a wee bit overboard.
     
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    By definition - collateral damage is both targeted and intentional.
     
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    Your definition would make the Republican party a terrorist organization, but I don't want to violate any forum rules by saying more.
     
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    Maybe just a smidge. ;-)
     
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    Agreed - The problem with watering down the definition of terrorism - is that it allows Gov't to criminalize views it does not agree with - which is exactly what is going on here.
     
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    Exactly - especially given our Gov't's history of using such incidents as an excuse to make legislation that messes with essential liberty.
     
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    FISA
     
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