Tulsa cop Betty Jo Shelby found not guilty in death of Terence Crutcher

I am not saying that we shouldn't hire vets, but hiring war vets (and not vetting them for PTSD and other issues), giving them guns to police American citizens, just doesn't seem like a smart idea to me.

There is a reason why we have the Posse Comitatus Act and use of the National Guard is a last resort.

A smarter idea would be to require higher education to go along with those "police powers".

 

Getting off too easy? They're doing what they're supposed to be doing when they feel their life is in danger.

2 lessons to be learned here...

1. Stop when the cops ask you to stop.
2. Don't do drugs.

 

Well I better never see you on another thread criticizing another elected official then

 

Lol, true

 

Lol, so you are one of those sorry souls who refuse to let your hate go when the rest of the world has moved on and healed. And we wonder why the BS continues.

 

Sounds like a BLM chant. Oddly enough, I never see the same people yammering when a white person is killed by a cop. Par for the course, eh?

But I see the same posters in here saying the same thing, that the white person should have complied. At least we're consistent.

 

horrible analogy.
being critical of elected officials based on policy is very different than condemning police officers who are in a life or death situation.

 

Lol, higher education? What will that do to help in a shooting situation? Nothing. Real world experience in chaotic situations is a much better teacher than a university in this case. PTSD?? You are not going to hire a vet because of PTSD? Talk about unfair discrimination. Are you one of those people who think everyone that has been in combat is a ticking bomb? You've seen too many movies.

 

Bullshit. He had his hands up while he walked away from the police and when he got to his driver side door, he put his hands down and started acting more suspicious, that's when he was shot. I bet you really do believe his hands were up at the time.

And nobody knew he was unarmed. That "unarmed" excuse doesn't fly, it just keeps the weak minded people in a frenzy. And even when they ARE armed, like the guy in Charlotte, you same people make excuses about how the weapon wasn't being pointed at the police.

 

I guess he was going to throw his vehicle at her.

Your right if he would have had one.

Why couldn't she smell for the gun he didn't have.

 

BS!!! Don't criticize if you can't handle criticizim. You haven't walked in their shoes.

 

I disagree, I don't think he has a temper. It's because of people like the OP and the media that have placed a huge target on the backs of our policemen, all because they need click bait. I'm not a cop but I'd be highly pissed off as well if there were a lot of armchair police telling me what's best. Especially today.

Our cops need more support than ever now because of the liberal media, that's why I have a Blue Line flag waving at my house, a Blue Line sticker on my truck window, and wear a Blue Lives Matter Blue Line rubber bracelet on my wrist. I have a lot more respect for the police, even the ones that are ********s, than I do the idiots in the media and elsewhere that have put a target on the backs of police.

 

How are you any better if you do the same thing?

 

I'll ask you two questions....One, have you read the studies about police incidents and higher education?
Two, When a combat soldier is diagnosed with PTSD, do his superiors put him back into combat? If not, is THAT discrimination?

Why so combative???

 

like i said, horrible analogy.
i accept your deflection as a victory.

 

If he'd been deaf then he wouldn't have complied at the beginning. Try again, your post is a big fail.

 

Lol, what? Are you just trying to be funny? You don't think it would only take a second to reach into the vehicle, grab a weapon, and engage the officers? It doesn't matter in the slightest that they found out after that he didn't have one. The officers MUST act under the assumption at all times that the guy is armed. The second a cop does otherwise is when complacency will get them killed.

The bottom line is, if the idiot had done exactly what the officer told him to do, he would still be alive. If someone does not comply, they do so at their own risk and have nobody but themselves to blame for the consequences.

 

Cops are "supposed" to wait to be shot or stabbed or have ESP to read the minds of people on PCP or Heroine or Xanax or just drunk to know what they're going to do next....in Liberal land. To me, as soon as you start screwing with a cop, they have no other option then assume you're dangerous. Why else would you fight or not listen to simple instructions, like "STOP", "get down" or "keep your hands on the wheel". If you're running, you're guilty. If you're not listening, you're guilty. Its very simple. Cops shouldn't have to wait and see and hope you won't try to kill them. They're not paid THAT much. Cops didn't have to worry the average person could be a sociopath or just SNAP because they stopped them speeding in a school zone. Now, you just don't know. Obama certainly didn't do us any favors the past 8 years, ROOTING for people rioting or disobeying cops.

 

I'm glad she was not convicted but I think she needs to find a different job. Her judgment and awareness looked questionable. Where was her back up? That person needs to leave LE too.

I don't know how much she practiced. If she only used her pistol when needing to qualify, that's a problem.

 

Sick of cops crying about life or death situations. You signed up for that **** voluntarily so go whine to someone who cares. You also signed up to be held to a higher standard than "gang banging thugs". You don't get to shoot first and ask questions later....this woman deserved to be locked up and the key thrown away.

 

Indeed. You get everything you want handed to you (unless you're Republican, then you get called an uncle tom and a sellout) and when you bring trouble upon yourself for acting like an idiot, you can still play the victim and get paid in the process.

 

There's also a reason people call the police for help.

The common denominator here is that none of the people complied and were suspicious, but of course the cop always gets the blame. Welcome to post-2009 America.

 

Lol, I was diagnosed with PTSD after my first deployment, then deployed 3 more times after that. I was able to work through my issues just fine, and never killed anyone except in the line of duty.

You do not become some permanently screwed up individual after being diagnosed with PTSD. That's the BS you see in movies. Educate yourself.

 

This right here is the mentality that needs to change. Cop's don't get to decide who is or is not guilty..ever.

It isn't a matter of how much they are paid. They are paid by the citizens of their jurisdiction and serve them. They don't get to decide guilt....and quite honestly they signed up voluntarily for a job that very well could mean they die in the line of duty. That doesn't mean they get to just shoot at anyone they think might be a threat just so that they can go home to their family. You signed up for public service...which means the life of the public just became more important than your life.

 

I like that little toy. Configure it with four 410 ga. slug loads and you may have something useful.