Two dead, up to 20 injured in West Texas shooting; 1 suspect in custody

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  1. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    That may be true or not true, however, the statement made that nobody walks around with loaded firearms with the safety off is factually incorrect. Most people do that.

    Also as far as having the hammer cocked goes that's a personal preference and it obviously depends on the firearm. Cocking the hammer in order for the firearm to be ready to fire is only applicable in single action firearms, think Old West style revolvers, etc. Most modern revolvers are dual action meaning no cocking of the hammer is required. Cocking the hammer on these relieves some trigger tension making the trigger lighter, it can still fire with the hammer reset. Not many folks concealed carry SA revolvers for self defense.

    The overwhelming vast majority of concealed carry guns are striker fire and have no hammer to **** nor any manual safety lever to switch on and off. They are designed to be drawn and fired immediately.

    The engineering design of these firearms incorporate their own safety mechanisms such as trigger safety and trigger bar drop safety. Not to sound cruel, but guns don't shoot themselves. If someone shoots themselves with a firearm that is user error not firearm error.
     
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    Mrlucky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No active warrants but the guy does have a record. The trooper who tried to stop him for failing to use his left turn signal likely knew who the guy was before trying to stop him. He started firing with a rifle at the cop out his back window without ever actually stopping.
    They don't want to release his name. Might have to wait until someone files a wrongful death suit to find out unless the morgue leaks the name to MSM.

    This account is as accurate as there is for now.
    https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/odessa-texas-shooting/
     
  3. Gary/Dubya

    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    Is there any speech where tRump has recently asked for an assault weapons ban like he once did? tRump doesn't care about anything other than himself. Figure it out, we aren't going to live that way and we will change the laws for firearms.
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    Check how many support red flag laws and universal background checks, even in the NRA. They are not blue state thinking, it's universal support throughout the country.
     
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    Mrlucky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You hear only what you want to hear. If there was universal support for more gun control which there is not, we would have more gun control, which we won't on a Federal level.
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    You just don't watch the news, the red flag laws were the first thing tRump suggested.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/politics/red-flag-gun-law-explainer-donald-trump/index.html

    I've seen polls up to 94% for UBC and the majority of NRA members support it.
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    dupe post
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Odd how you bleeding hearts ignore this happening every day in liberal run cesspits like Chicago. Way to jump on the 'convenient' corpses and shooters to push your agenda...
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    BULL. You won't get legislation as long a Moscow McConnel runs the Senate. He's the NRA #1 man.
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    Those aren't mass shootings, can't you tell the difference?

    There will be more of them.

    The Chicago and other city problems are a product of the right-wing opposing proper police action to get the guns off the streets.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, so children shot in random drive byes or just shot in urban hellholes daily have less value than those shot in a 'mass shooting'? We get it. You folks could at least have the decency to allow the corpses to cool before trying to make political point...
     
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    Mrlucky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden is your man. He was Obama's too. Obama set Biden up because he knew more gun control was a political loser then the same as it is now. Good we have checks and balances to unhinged Presidents and VP's don't you think?

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-takes-senate-task-failed-gun-control-measure/story?id=18981374

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0d77a6-60c5-11e2-b05a-605528f6b712_story.html
     
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    Democrats have raped Chicago for years. I can't think of any large city controlled by democrats that isn't crime ridden and corrupt.
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    How many times do you have to be told to figure out we are going thru a period of mass shootings by assault type weapons and it won't be over soon.

    I haven't supported these loose gun laws, so blame yourself for all the other shootings. I support the cops getting the guns of the streets and then there are very few shooting, like in NYC.
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    Stupid objections about searching for guns on the streets have raped Chicago.

    The poor will never support the Republican Party.
     
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    Most of these guns being used there are already illegal. Who will go in and take them? Why haven't they already done so?
     
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    Yep, there are loads of shootings many by people who know their victim usually a relative or "friend" and quite often using a legally held gun. Mass shootings that are being debated are attacks on random people. The other shootings that you are obviously referring to tend to be by one drug dealer on another drug dealer or similar illegal activity and frankly, I don't care that a drug dealer has been killed but I do care when random people are murdered.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Do you have the number of children shot in random drive byes in, say, this year?
     
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    Not everybody in those shootings are drug dealers. Some of them are toddlers, some are school students and some are grandmas that all just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
     
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    The age range of the 7 shot and killed 15 t6o 57.Texas police still refusing to identify the shooter other than mid 30's white male.
     
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    Name was Seth Ator. no other information in the Odessa American now.
     
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    Gary/Dubya Well-Known Member

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    They don't take guns from people, they just prohibit the sale of certain guns and accessories, like bump stocks and high capacity magazines.

    When I see a report stating there are 5 to10 million AR-15 type weapons in the US, it speaks volumes. How can the range be so large?
     
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    So then they won't use the ones they already have to kill people?
     
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    Gary, Gary. People like you are the cause, not the effect of problems in the country.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hardly, violent crime and murder have been decreasing. The vast majority of all shooting, mass or otherwise are still committed by handguns. Yet those who'd infringe on the rights of millions laser focus a few anomalous events. That makes no logical sense, focus on something minor and ignoring the much bigger problem. Liberal logic is pathetic...
     
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