U.N. Votes 151-6 to disavow Israeli ties to Jerusalem :0

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  1. TOG 6

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    They were "given" land by Jordan.
     
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    Not I. To me, aggression and destruction are never options, unless it is in direct response to an attack.
    The other dude, likes the nuke option for settling disputes.
     
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    No they weren't... The reason for the six day war was to expand and obtain more fertile land and water. Read Moshe Dayan.
     
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    They were. By treaty. In 1994.
    ... destroy Israel. We know.
     
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    No .. Israel planned the war and carried out dozens of provocations against Lebanon and Syria for the ten years prior.. They wanted more land and water.. Read Moshe Dayan.. Its laid out in detail That's why Israel attacked Egypt while Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen.
     
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    Yes.
    The Arab states built up forces on the Israel border with the intent to destroy Israel, and then blockaded an Israeli port.
    The Israelis reacted to this act of war by destroying those forces.
     
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    Some updates on Trumps provocative behaviour

     
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    They are as good as anywhere and better than some. I'll tell you something a few months ago there was an article on the net by a woman who used to be Editor of the New York Times. She said they simply were not allowed to be honest about Israel. :)

    Tel you what Tog see if you can discount one of them. Several have links.
     
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    I'm sure you believe that.
    Fact it, none of that matters as no one can do a thing about it.
     
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    As I said above if you feel you can disprove any do so otherwise you are just hot air.

    As far as no one being able to do anything about it, it is illegal. It simply puts Israel and the US and anyone else onside against the rest of the world. Enjoy.

    Here
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...erusalem-move-hasn-t-sparked-uprising-n828656

    Now try doing something about Trumps words and watch what happens. :)
     
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    Every time I do, you ignore it.
    The entirety of the West Bank, including the entirety of Jerusalem, belongs to Israel under international law, and has since 1994.
    As such, there's no illegality whatsoever in any of this; any opinions to the contrary are baseless.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have never disproved anything to me.
    untrue

    Wrong. You are living in your own little world with your own little made up laws. International law says different.

    As I said above Trumps words are words that is all. Try doing something about his words and you will get what will be a well prepared response. :)
     
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    I have -- you simply choose to believe otherwise.
    Here's proof. You'll refuse to believe it, of course.
    http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/peacetreaty.html
    Please note Annex I(a) that specifies the post-treaty border between Jordan and Israel.

    And so, the entirety of the West Bank, including the entirety of Jerusalem, belongs to Israel under international law, and has since 1994.
    The treaty I cited is international law - international law that resolves the controversy in toto.
     
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    No it doesn't. There is absolutely nothing there which suggests the West Bank and all of Jerusalem belongs to Israel and that most certainly is not the situation by International law. East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza and the Golan Heights are occupied territory and do not belong to Israel. She is illegally settling them, The King of Jordan in 1988 released the West Bank and East Jerusalem to the PLO to be part of the future Palestinian State.

    You are imagining things and that is a serious problem because what you are imagining is against International Law and if you do not know that you are going to be surprised.

    here is some truth for you to ponder on.

    https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/28/un-human-rights-warning-letter-firms-palestine-territories-occupied-israel

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories


    Now I am going to leave this game :)
     
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    Did you look at the annex I pointed out?
    Please do that and then explain how your statement, above, is true.
    The treaty is international law; said treaty resolved the controversy in toto.
    Under the international law I cited, they are part of Israel; Israel cannot "occupy" its own territory.
    Again, I ask: Cite the treaty.
    My citation of international law says otherwise; your opinions contrary to that law are meaningless.
    I accept your concession of all points made.
     
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    May be, but if you're right ... Funny how Palestinians accepted Israeli help ...
     
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    Don't be naive, I'm a politician. I don't want to convince you [and I don't expect to be able to ... we are political opponents in front of an audience ... come on! We are talking to the audience, we are not discussing between us, actually].

    Hoping to be debating with a politician, let's develop some points. The readers will build their own persuasions about this.

    You are substantially sustaining the right to make a genocide and to erase a national culture. Great! Being Italian I appreciate you are justifying Romans for what they did to Jews. Ok, thanks.:applause:

    But probably Jews think different.

    Even from a typical Western rude perspective [the winner takes it all] there is something not that correct here: Romans did the disaster. Jews hadn't expelled from the Land of Canaan by Palestinians [you know, from a Western perspective a military conquest is a way to acquire a right on a land], but by Romans ... mmhh
     
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    Israel exited Lebanon - as certified by the UN - in 2000, yet the arab muslim filth terrorists still conducted attacks from lebanon.

    Israel exited Gaza in 2008 completely, yet the arab muslim filth terrorists still conducted attacks from gaza.

    The fact is that no minorities in any arab muslim country are thriving, and arab muslims will not tolerate the sovereign rights of anyone else in the mideast, so why would anyone be so dumb as to think this has ANYTHING to do with land?
     
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    Notice how it is "bad" for jews to move somewhere, but it is "good and acceptable" for millions of arab muslims to move to the West, like Germany and Sweden.

    I'll make this offer; ALL muslims must leave the West today, THEN come to me about Israel.
     
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    You're wrong, arab muslims are like the 7 year old nephew who when they lose the game, get unlimited do-overs until they win. They're allowed to keep using terrorism and violence to murder others until they win.
     
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    Really? Where were the anti-semitic passages removed? And, yes, we are certain Israel created hamas to suicide bomb jews, sure thing.

    Wow, you really know your facts and history - still claiming no jews fought the Turks in WW1 are we? Any more fairy tale nonsense you want to spout here?
     
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    They can whine all they like and every antisemitic LWer in the US could support them, but the fact remains Israel controls it.
     
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    THAT is why I and most rational people are fans of the jews and support them over the horrendous arab muslim liars and terrorists; jews build and arab muslims destroy.
     
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    Lord almighty, how many times and threads is this lie going to be spouted? Just unreal, its like having a tape recorder or a parrot.
     
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