When does it become a form of mental illness

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This individual may well know our society very well and be totally in tune with the reality that there are a lot of people who jump to reject his very existence.

    In fact, your reaction seems to fully verify his view that he's seen as an alien, simply due to the many variables of human sexuality not aligning in a common pattern.
     
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    It depends on what kind of country. If its classic country, then the whiners need to seek counseling to improve their coping skills
     
  3. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I think you need to go back and follow our conversation so you can reverse the tangent you went off the exit ramp with somewhere a few turns back
     
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    Oh thou hypocrite!

    Now you think that you're qualified to say that someone needs to seek counseling huh?
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Sir, I am going to assume in this post that you understand the concept of humor, and appreciate a facetious post, designed to lighten the mood.
     
  6. FatBack

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    But yet you don't believe that someone who claims to be a genderless alien being is mentally ill?
     
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  7. WillReadmore

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    You may not like it, but I was right on target.

    It's you who sees that individual as an alien. And, that individual is aware of that.
     
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    nope, you are not capable of handling humor. as for your question, asked and answered time and again. repeated the tired line you started with, does not change the answers you received
     
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    Or it is possible that your humor is not as humorous as you imagine it to be.

    I'm certain that never occurred to you...

    If that's not an example of outrageously mentally ill, then there is no such thing.

    Perhaps you could share with us an example of your opinion of someone who is mentally ill?
     
  10. WillReadmore

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    You have NO evidence of mental illness. In fact as pointed out, that individual has some serious truth.

    All you have is hate. How much hate do you think is called for? Is your hate so large that you hope to imprison him?
     
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    Everyone is a genderless alien being. No soul originated on this planet, and we have all been male and female many times over many lifetimes.
     
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    You are aware are you not that the very word "fan" comes from "fanatic", are you not?

    And yes, I would say that most who are fanatics have some degree of mental illness.
     
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    That may very well be possible but when you claim that that's what you are right now while walking this Earth you are an absolute fruitcake
     
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    Well, real science says that is wrong.

    XX or XY. Period. There is no YY, or ZZ.
     
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    Lol, you completely misunderstood my post. Our body is not who we are. It is just a vehicle for our soul/consciousness. We have used many bodies that were xx and xy. This argument over sex and gender is a waste of time, a plot by politicians to keep us divided and focused on things that are completely irrelevant.
     
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    I am talking science. Not some kind of religious beliefs.

    This is a science thread. If you want to discuss whatever it is you are trying to push, I suggest you take it to the religions area. It is not applicable in here.
     
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    I self identify as not a republican or a democrat, but a person that loves my country. Here to help others. lol.
     
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    Just reading this old thread it was funny to see you make the same claims you do years later.

    Oh Fabio please post some pictures!
     
  19. WillReadmore

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    This is FAR from an irrelevant topic, as it seriously affects people's lives.
     
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    Nope.

    There are a number of others besides XX and XY:
    XXY, XXYY, XYYY, XYYYY, X, XXX

    Some of these aren't all that rare - like 1 in 1,000. That's a lot of individuals, given the population of America.

    Also, chromosomes aren't an absolute control. There are gonads, pituitary glands, etc., that emit signals concerning various aspects of sex. Remember that you can't detect homosexuality by looking at a person's genes.
     
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    Which are known as "mutations". And in most cases, can not even reproduce

    XXY, a male with an extra X chromosome. Also known as "Klinefelter Syndrome", and sterile.

    XXYY, also sterile.

    XYYY syndrome. Guess what? Sterile?

    Females with just a single X chromosome? Also known as "Turner syndrome". Most fetus with this condition are spontaneously aborted in the third trimester. And all women born with it are sterile.

    Seeing a pattern here?

    When you step into the area of chromosomal defects, that is unfavorable and not advantageous. Rarely does not matter, they are genetic abnormalities and will almost never be passed to future generations as they are essentially "mules". Not only sterile, but that defect is not actually "genetic" and can not be passed down to children even in the rare cases of parenting children. They are nothing more then genetic mistakes.

    You are doing what a lot of people trying to sell "rare" things at auction are doing. Just because something is "rare" does not mean it is "valuable".

    And genetically to humans, somebody with XXYY is just a genetic dead end caused by random mutation. And also has nothing to do with this discussion.

    FYI, I have a cousin that was diagnosed with Kleinfelter. He is a man, even served in the Marines. He and his wife even adopted two kids when that was determined to be the cause of his infertility. But he does not go around trying to claim he is a woman just because he has an extra X chromosome. In fact, the last time we talked about a year ago he even laughed when he told me he now had to do breast examinations as his doctor warned him he is at an increased risk of breast cancer.

    Nice try, throwing out a slew of random genetic mutations, and thinking that actually has anything to do with the topic.
     
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    Sterility doesn't change anything I've said.

    Being sterile hasn't stopped these cases from existing. They are coming from the nonsterile population.

    Beyond that, I first pointed out that genes aren't an absolute control. So, someone who is XX or XY could have various glands that control sexuality operating outside of what is common for their genetic code.

    The question is, how could our morality, our law, our society POSSIBLY justify less than equal treatment of those whose bodies don't fit some specific pattern?
     
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    I just want to call out this one sentence of yours.

    This could not POSSIBLY be more immoral if you tried.

    How dare you judge a human being as not "valuable" based on their natural body composition?
     
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    Oh holy hell, now the tears and hysterics.

    Go ahead and have your temper tantrum, hope you feel better when it is over.
     
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    Gender is fluid - even in the animal population

     

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