When you look at illegal entry, look at this!

Genocide did not magically stop with the arrival of Europeans, you are wrong. The romantic idea of the early settlers is a distraction from systematic genocide by people with superior weaponry who settled the land by force, and then claimed ownership. I blame modern Americans for their hypocrisy, why not admit that they have seized what they have by brutal force, and will keep it by the threat and use of brutal force.
Americans (some of them) claim to be religious and respect the Ten Commandments which speak about ‘thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal’. Hypocrisy. Americans have stolen what they have by killing, then go to church to say the opposite.
It wasn’t only religious persecution that brought early Europeans to North America, establishing plantations worked by slaves was another reason, as well as curiosity and the adventure of it all. As for free healthcare, in a land where a new parent is charged 60 dollars to hold their child, and cancer sufferers have to sell all and camp in woods whilst getting treatment, healthcare isn’t free anywhere.
All the walls built, like the one you say you want, don’t work. And walls don’t stop things like coronavirus or pollution spreading.

 

If walls didn't stop trespass we wouldn't see so many of them in every day life, we call them fences. Wealthy people like our politicians live in gated communities behind walls that have manned points of entry. Most large corporations have fenced yards to protect equipment. None of these are impenetrable and they aren't intended to be, just enough bother to keep honest people out. That one on our Southern border is as effective as our enforcement. If they don't work it is because we don't incorporate them into our enforcement of a coherent border policy. We have gone from "Keep Off The Grass" to "Y'all come on in, sit a spell".

 

True, you can trade away your credibility and argue both lines.[/QUOTE]
But if they want to break our laws by entering illegally.....then they should await their hearing in Mexico as they did before Ole' Joe became President. It's really not hard to understand. We did have an agreement with Mexico that worked really well. Open border Joe just tore it up.

 

If that was the case, why were the detention facilities in US full of people? They shipped them even here to Florida. Others were bused to Texas cities and released onto the streets.

Your posts reveal that you didn't understand it then, and you don't understand it now.

 

Of course it did not magically stop. It took centuries, but once our system of "the right to own and maintain property " came about, it did stop. Come out from your revisionist bubble. Visit the town of Taos New Mexico. The oldest, maintained village in America. Before European Settlement it had ten foot walls around it. No windows or doors in the home. You accessed the rooms by ladders to the roof. They had to do that to keep raiders from sealing their women and children. They had to do that just to stay alive. Now, after European Settlement, they have doors and windows.

Let me help you. Thou shalt not kill would actually mean, you should not murder or shed innocent blood. Human Nature kills any way and just not white people. You yourself are not pure. On this Continent there was a back and forth of human nature among tribes and Europeans. Kentucky was the "Dark and Bloody Ground " before Europeans got here. Marxist theory just wants to assign murder and genocide to white America now because they are the ones who installed the current system in power. They want power for themselves so they use revisionist history to try and obtain it.

Yes pollution from China coal factories will come right over any of our walls. I don't quite get you logic, but the walls and the incentive "not to come" worked well for the previous 3 years. Open borders has allowed several thousand into our country where 10% are infected with the China Virus. So what is your crap about walls not stopping it??

 

You only seem to understand "open borders". There is no understanding with you.

 

Wrong, it comes from the government. The government is the only one that can assign a value that everyone recognizes.

 

Which gives the government the power of the purse which might explain why we scrapped the gold standard?

 

How would gold backed paper work with an creasing population, not to mention a negative trade balance? Our gold would all be in China by now. In addition, the gold standard will not work in an industrialized economy due to no real way to account for "value added" through manufacturing.

 

I never said that.

You are trying tp argue every angle of every issue no matter how much your comments contradict each other, and you never stop to think about it.

If borders were open, there would be no one being detained, and no one being turned back, but people are being detained and turned back.

You want complain about borders being open, and at the same time you want to complain about ICE arresting and detaining illlegals.

Pick a line and stick with it, because it can't be both.

It seems you want to complain just for the sake of complaining.

 

The only reason they detain anyone, is to assign them a hearing and turn them loose. My comments do not contradict anything. They can get refugee status before crossing our borders if that is what they maintain. The problem is letting them in in the 1st place. You assign them a court date and eventually turn them loose never to hear from them again. (at least 80%). If Mexico let them cross their borders, we should let them stay in Mexico until they can legally enter the U.S. That is what the wall was to help with. That is my line, now just admit you like the fact we have over 17,000 youth now detained in the U.S. soon to be released with free healthcare.

 

You do it constantly. If the border was open, they would not arrest or detain anyone, but they are arrested and turned away, and the facilities in question are full of people and they are not just waiting to be assigned a hearing.

I can't "admit" something that is not true. I'd be lying. Its an inane allegation. Why would anyone like such thing?

 

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Check this out:

Federal Employees Asked to Help with Influx of Migrant Children

more info at link

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/03/26/federal-employees-asked-to-help-with-influx-of-migrant-children/

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Bear in mind that there is no crisis and even if there were it would be Trump's fault. Somehow or other.

 

It is also illegal to hire illegal immigrants, but the USA doesn't enforce that law. Why? Because our economy and some large businesses want them.

No one has ever pointed to this open border policy you post about. What is that policy? When was it enacted into law?

 

Your first sentence is a real problem. I have supported e-verify from the beginning. I have supported throwing the book at those hiring illegals. That includes house nanny's, gardners and hotel workers. I'm also for deporting law breakers. No problem with Green cards.
It is open borders. It is not legal. Detention is merely for show. They are all released. Biden lied about how many were returned. He got 4 pinnochios. Ole' Joe reimplemented the Obama catch and release policy. The amnesty he has promised invites more to come. I explained the policy....you determine if it was ever enacted into law. Don't play games. What was it,15 Senators that just took a tri[p to the border where media has been refused by Ole' Joe? We did see pictures they are trying to hide where children are packed in plastic cages like sardines. Far worse than anything they ever accused Trump of doing.

 

I don't think the natives let anybody in. The Europeans came and took it. We aren't as smart as those 17th century natives. We are doing it to ourselves.

 

Policies aren't laws. This policy was enacted when Biden signed his executive orders.

 

Open the borders and spend the keeping them out money on healthcare instead.
Sorted.

 

Did the natives build a wall to keep Europeans out?

 

Look at what happened to the natives, over a span of about a mere hundred years (relatively short time period, historically) they were completely overwhelmed, and their way of life ended up being completely changed.

Now of course, a superior culture and technological improvements were brought, that were able to eventually improve their quality of life in many ways, but imagine if that had not been the case.
The North American continent is not the open place open to pioneers and settlers it once was. Most all land of any economic value has already been claimed, and the city areas are overcrowded. Let's face it, it's unlikely any new big city areas that will become new geographic hubs of economic activity will be built. In fact there are many former big city areas that have been in decline, and economic opportunities have been getting more and more concentrated in a handful of big city areas along the coasts.

 

‘Superior culture’?
By every metric?

 

They should have.

 

And that would have kept the Europeans out?

 

Couldn't hurt