Why are there so many priests that are pedos?

are you trying to say that although it can be p/c to be gay it is still wrong? cos thats the way i am taking your post

 

I wouldn't have a clue, but I do know that the number of cases brought against paedophile priests in Boston just about sent the parish broke, so there must have been a considerable number in just one parish alone. But the number of paedophile priests is irrelevant.The real important, hideous aspect of these sordid affairs is the fact that the Church knew about these priests and instead of sacking them, moved them on to other parishes where they could continue, unheeded, with their nefarious, dispicable (mis)deeds! And people trusted them with their children!

It just proves that religion, any religion, is just for the ignorant and misguided. Just see how Muslims cut off the heads of non-believers, and envelope their womenfolk in a shroud. All perpertrated inthe name of Allah!

 

It is what it is. I would say anal sex for example is indeed wrong. In former times it seems to me the people thought only and exclusively about anal sex (without using this word) when they spoke about the sin "homosexual behavior". Anal sex is also a sin for heterosexuals. It seems to me never they thought about gay women and never they thought in case of men about normal tenderness or affection or something like this. "Werewolve" for example seems to be a synonyme for a cruel and brutal murderer on sexual reasons: half animal - half human being. A perversion of the nature. It's for sure wrong to be a kind of werewolve. There are wrongs and rights in case of sexual behavior and this wrongs and rights were always very important and are also today very important.

http://youtu.be/nkcIoI7gDow

 

I think you meant :

pedos = men having sex with underage boys

 

Well said. That's what I been trying to say. The church accepts them both and homosexuals accepts them both.

 

Anal sex is wrong. Same with boys, men over 18 or dogs...it's all the same. Hope that clears it up. thank you.

 

That's indeed a serios question where something is written even in the bible about. As a sign of the near endtime it is said that some people are changing their normal sexual orientation and are doing in public strange things . But what means this really? Perhaps it's also a bad sign if a homosexual changes his sexual orientation? That would be also very extreme - wouldn't it? Whatever: It are signs only. Perhaps there's a deeper message hidden in this lines of the bible. I don't know. I understood if we see all this signs then it's to late to run. But I don't live in fear - Jesus is always welcome if he likes to come. I'm not worried.

http://youtu.be/xJOtaWyEzaI

 

No, pedophilia is having sexual fantasies about sex with children. It's about age, not about gender.

As has already been said in this thread, girls are also getting molested by priests. In fact, SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, currently have 3,600 female members, according to their FAQ. While far most of all discovered cases of abuse are done by male priests, nuns are also known to have molested kids. This of course mostly involves girls since that is the gender that nuns usually make close connections to. Just like priests due to their place of work most often will build up relationships with boys. However, as you see from the horses mouth, the victims who seek help among each other to cope with abuse, many were actually girls at the time of abuse.

 

Are you suggesting a genetic correlation between religiousity and pedophilia? I wouldn't go there if I were you.

 

I'm sorry, but from what I've seen christian churches here do accept homosexuals and actually promote it. And it's the homosexuals in the church who commit these acts. Is there a correlation? Yes.

Why? as i've said before, No other club, organization or group accepts homosexuals more than a church...under the cover of a loving jesus and god.

This is reality Freeware, sorry. Reason I'm not religious, only have a personal belief.

 

So your defense of childmolesting priests is that those priests are gay? Is that it?

 

Yes. Both commit crimes freeware...Both get away with it under a church setting.

Not so much under civilian law. I don't see why the short questions with you? Homosexuality>Molestation> Sin>Crime.

 

Thats quite a messed up personal moral compass you have. It should be apparent to any normal person that forcing the sexual act onto a child is quite a different thing than a sex act between 2 consenting adults.

 

I'm just curious now: Do you consider it a crime for a man to have sex with a little girl or a woman to have sex with a little boy?

 

And if we were debating in court, I would beat you on every argument.

I said, on the other pages that Religion and church accepts homosexuals as normal people...They enter the church, knowing full well others can't question their sexuality, because that is wrong under god and you're not supposed to judge them...therefore, they can do anything they want under the church rule. Because you can't judge them. And god is all accepting and forgiving. That is what they believe...that is why they commit the crime.

 

That solely depends on the charge.

 

Ian. if you are priest...you are full of FAIL.

Sin is Sin. Two consenting adults having anal sex is a sin. same as the other: no difference under God's rule. If you are talking about civil laws then yes. there is a difference because idiots have learned to accept homosexuals into churches.

 

So, JediMiller, do you consider it a crime (or a sin) for a man to have sex with a little girl or a woman to have sex with a little boy?

 

Yes. But if you are to charge a priest then you must go after the entire church and it's practices and understand that they are promoting and accepting homosexuals...Knowing that all or most of them turn into pedos. This is statictics we are talking about. If you had a sheet showing you that 80% of molestation in church happens to come from homosexual priests...what would be the outcome?

 

Most childmolestors are married. A short time ago for example a married man became here in Germany even a murderer on a child because he tried to hide what he had done. His wife said he was a good father - and - what shocked me - a warm and loveful person. I don't doubt that she's right. She had no chance to find out what was wrong with him. Poor woman.

It's really very very very difficult to say something if somone doesn't know what's going on concrete. So I don't trust in the moment in your "homosexual"=nearly like="pedophile" thesis. There are similarities - but also a heterosexual orientation is not changeable. (What a luck in this case). This makes homosexuality not similiar with pedophilia.

Neverthelless I have to say very serios that the war of words of the mass media against the catholic church one or two years ago in Germany was shocking me very deep. It was the worst wave of political propaganda I've ever seen in my whole life. It was a very crazy situation. The words "abuse" became suddenly everything: from cruelist murder to a little kiss on a cheek - even punishment in school (and prison-like institutions) became titled "abuse" and not "wrong educational concept". Never I saw so many crazy people saying and writing so many crazy things as in this days - and everything and everyone was suddenly taken serios as long as it was a message against the catholic church.

Nevertheless this should not make us blind for the real dimensions and the very bitter results in lots of cases. There are lots of psychological problems, drug problems, "the will to be mighty" problems and so on and so on. I'm not sure wether homosexuality is really in the first row of the problems - but I also don't like to say homosexuality is not a problem.

http://youtu.be/tMpx3FwATkY

 

Good, objective post. I see the problem escalating and starting with homosexuality.

The only reason to stop this is for SO CALLED Christian/Catholic churches to stop accepting homosexuals. I was disgusted when I went to a church here, supposedly christian and all loving. And when I told my friend about what I saw (tons of Homosexuals), he said.."You can't judge". Blinded to reality.

 

Huh? If a priest is charged with raping children, you must go after the church for promoting homosexuality?? What the hell are you talking about?

 

I see the problem as a result of initially well-meaning men who get into the ministry for several reasons (actual sincerity, parental pressure, desire for respect, need for the approval and love by mankind, & in some cases self-psychological rehabilitation), where their power (being 'the man' between common ppl & God) and a combination of disappointment in their lives having no self-satisfaction with the reality of serving with daily rituals & dead works as well as sexual repression---Paul only said that it was 'his' belief that those serving God be celibate so that they could devote ALL their time to the ministry of the kingdom (my para). It worked for Paul because he was, as he said, a God-made eunuch.

And so that power supplemented in seeking some actual self-satisfaction in life, with disappointment in the ministry as a celibate Catholic priest, leads to those priests abusing their positions and yielding/entering into carnal lusts, and thus spiritually turning their backs on their vows and the ministry. And, psychologically, they find a way to justify their actions by their sacrifices for the ministry with the feelings of 'love' for their victims..

 

Im not a priest but Im sure that any person of the cloth worth his salt would agree that abuse forced onto a child is a much more heinous crime or sin than any act between 2 consenting adults. I dont even know why its necassary to argue this, earlier I said any normal person would know this. Now I will say that any human being will know this instinctively including those themselves whom molest children. If you dont know this then your moral compass is not just wrong but completely missing.

 

No, its not that complicated. Pedophiles will seek positions of trust for obvious reasons. The Priesthood is the ultimate position of trust. Bonus for the Peds, the Priesthood is much easier to get into than something like a law enforcement role.