Why are there so many priests that are pedos?

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  1. OverDrive

    OverDrive Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would be interesting to see a study of pedophiles priests, whether they had those desires B4 entering the priesthood, or developed those desires after.

    May be a mix, altho I agree with positions of power over children do draw in pedophiles (as in Boy Scouts, etc.)
     
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    Anti-Catholic Troll.
     
  3. ian

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    I doubt whether we will ever see any such studies, I have seen evidence though that amongst many pedophiles the urge is reinforced by access to child pornography, I dont think it is any accident we are seeing a surge in the rate of child sexual abuse since the advent of the internet. This also points to the probability the urge or the proclivity is adopted in early adulthood or sooner.
     
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    The rate of pedophilia among priests is about the same as that of the general population of men. It's just more shocking when it's a priest.

    Around here, we have a lot of protestant ministers charged with pedophilia. Many of them married.

    Try again.
     
  5. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you have single-sex institutions you get homosexual activity, as in navies, prisons and monasteries. A great number of rather inadequate men are pushed by their mothers to be priests, and think children don't matter, since they have no power, which is all that their own lives have been about. Inadequate people always go for power. The answer is to get rid of power-positions. What on earth have they really to do with what we are told about Jesus of Nazareth?
     
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    I will dispute that, the incidence is much higher in the church.
     
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    The major part of the problem was during the 1960s-1980s. Why? The church believed the prevailing view of psychologists who said pedophiles could change.

    They covered up the scandals because it's embarrassing. It's human nature to cover up misdeeds. Started with Adam and Eve.

    The Catholic Church in the U.S. today is almost paranoid about this. In church facilities, adults are no longer allowed to be around children not their own, without at least one other adult present (and yes, priests are included). All adults working with youth in the Church are required to be fingerprinted/background checked and go through at least 4 hrs of training on recognition and prevention of abuse.
     
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    Right, so that was ok to abuse children because it was possible for them to change. If you could see me now you would notice steam coming out of my ears.

    Yeah, who cares about the children eh? What should we call, them, collateral damage? People like you, apologists make me very very very angry.
     
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    Indeed, rather than the question of why especially priests show up as pedophiles it can be a much more interesting question why an urge can exist for the religious to defend, or at least make light of, pedophilia when it's committed in religious settings. I find it to be amazing.
     
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    This is the reason that there is a call to charge the Catholic Church as a criminal organization over the number of pedophiles they protected over the years under the 1975 RICO Act.
     
  12. diligent

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    What on earth are talking about? Paedophilia is the disgusting habit of having sex with under age children, which in practice, is usually boys. It is also known as paedergasty.
     
  13. efjay

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    Not at all... I am against all religion as it is just a crutch for weak, simple minded fools.
     
  14. bacardi

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    perhaps because priests can't marry?
     
  15. FreeWare

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    It seems we are in agreement about the term pedophilia*), so if you could be more specific about your doubts about what I'm talking about, I will try to sort it out for you.


    *) Except, of course, your assertion that the pedophile usually targets boys. This is not so. I will not do a grand search on this while on this computer but here's a quote from an article that I think you'll find representative of the issue once you divert from the usual prejudice that circulates in society:

    - "Preference for children as sex partners may not be exclusive, and more often than not, pedophiles have no gender preference in prepubescent children. However, by a margin greater than two to one, most victims are girls."

    Emphasis mine. Source.
     
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    Do you know any unmarried people? Are they all pedophiles?
     
  17. bacardi

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    it was just a thought LOL :)
     
  18. jedimiller

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    the church is the only institution in the world who accepts gays...more than any other..


    why can't you all see this? asnwers the d a m n. questions please!!

    church is like an open door for gays, they join because they feel LOVED there or whatever other excuse they want to use. There are so many gays in church its disgusting...Jesus would never go along with this.

    so you have tons of gays roaming around in a church setting, whats gonna happen? Pedofilia.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). If that were the case, then married couples wouldn't moleste kids at all.

    What happened is that back in the 60s the Church let a bunch of hippie leftists into their schools and they wound up being the group you see today being accused of molesting kids.

    It's really not as many priests as you think either. An accusation doesn't prove guilt.
     
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    "The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children."

    Read More:http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

    Department of Psychology, University of California, Davis


    Do everyone a favour jedi: give the karaoke a break for a while and sit down and read a book or two. The amount of ignorance you display on this subject is, quite frankly, alarming.

    You seem like a decent sort of guy, however, your outdated, homophobic, ignorant views on all matters to do with sexuality seem to be something from another planet.

    Please, do some research.

    "The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially."
     
  21. diligent

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    I have no absolute proof, but in almost every case that is published in the media and various 'docos' on this topic, boys are the victims. I can't recollect any event (that doesn't mean there haven't been any) that relates to girls. Presumably and unfortunately (I am of the male species)it is nearly always committed by males on male children. Maybe, we are still to hear about the secret sexual mores of RC nuns, as it's certainly hard to believe this never occurred!

    Certain artists (and fashions stores)are not backward in promoting the sexualisation of children, as epitomised by a recent episode in Australia, where a well known photographer was allowed into a school (by the female Principal) with the specific aim of taking photos of nude underage children!
     
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    What on earth do you mean by this assertion:

    'An accusation doesn't prove guilt.'

    Many priests have been found guilty of molestiing young boys. Just this month another priest has been found guilty in this country (in the State where I live)of sexually molesting young boys. How much proof does anyone need to see that the RC hierarchy covered up these ignominious acts, that is the tragedy. And, of course, we will never know to what extent this occured in the distant past. But I very much doubt that it only occurred in relatively recent times. It's no wonder the RC Church is having immense difficulties in attracting men to the priesthood.

    Last Christmas, at the suggestion of my brother, who is a practising Catholic (I'm not), to mass and the priests were so doddery I thought, that at any moment, they would stumble and do harm to themselves.

    The RC hierarchy have a lot answer for!
     
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    Please. I don't know what a homosexual - for example Peter - is thinking. You also don't know anything about. The catholic church doesn't need such an abstrahotic form of defense.

    If someone likes to become a priest of the catholic church then he will become a priest of the church - wether he's speaking about his sexual orientation or not. And - dear friend: If god is everything accepting and forgiving then he can do so - god doesn't need anyones allowness to do whatever he likes to do. I heard he's full-aged since some eternities.

    http://youtu.be/NVlBflmzqn8
     
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    It's extreme seldom - although all catholics have to pay for. Every married man or every non-priest-man is much more dangerous in average. But as seldom as hard is the shock.

    http://youtu.be/eC-JKId3SoA
     
  25. Iolo

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    The odd aspect of all this is how divided opinion is on this sort of thing. An RC social worker of my acquaintance just laughed and said 'Well, good heavens, nobody ever leaves kids alone with a priest'. Others are shocked. I think that like quite a lot of nastiness it has existed in tradition societies like Ireland for a very long time, and is just part of the hypocricy that goes with a 'national' religion. And the stories I hear about - say - the Christian Brothers who were so influential in the past indicate that those who weren't paedophiles were sadists - as were a great many nuns. We're in this world to suffer, and they saw to it children did!
     

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