Why did Al Qaeda foolishly attack us on 9-11?

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    Obama

    [A]ll of my mixed race, black/white classmates throughout my youth, some of whom I am still in contact with, were the product of very culturally specific unions. They were always the offspring of a white mother, (in my circles, she was usually Jewish, but elsewhere not necessarily) and usually a highly educated black father. …[F]or a white woman to marry a black man in 1958, or 60, there was almost inevitably a connection to explicit Communist politics.
     
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    Well Mr sane please tell us what part of my posts are nutty as you say, as of yet your yet to disprove of anything i have posted just ad hominem attacks a trait amongst communist/zionist conspiracy theorists.

    Wanna talk about conspiracies?

    What about the holohoax conspiracy?

    You know where you jews say 6 million jews were killed and gassed by nazis without offering any proof(especially the forensic kind) of it ever happening...

    Nah your just a radical and strange zionist/communist conspiracy theory nutjob.
     
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    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So now I'm a zionist and a communist? Sanity isn't a wheel; you can't go so far off the deep end that you eventually make sense. It's a straight line and you're out in loonyville. You don't believe in the Holocaust, you think 9/11 was done by Jews, you think Jews run America, and because I don't agree you think I'm some sort of Jewish commie Zionist who loves Israel despite the fact that I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about Israel and I don't like Zionists or communists. I have no problem with Jewish people however; mostly because I'm not some sort of crazy nazi.
     
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    Well, they werent "mossad agents", you made that part up. They werent sent from "Israel to America, New York to document the event", you made that part up as well. And the event was the burning trade towers, of course. Its right there in the post of mine you quoted and chose to respond to. Any other dumb (*)(*)(*)(*)ing questions einstein?
     
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    1 They were mossad agents.
    2 They were sent from Israel
    3 So you yourself ADMIT they were sent to document the burning trade towers.(You just admitted it yourself you fool...lol..Talk about putting your foot in it.lmwao..)

    1 Question how did they know that the towers were going to get burnt?Did they have esp or something..lol....keep digging your whole .
     
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    Wanted for war crimes:

    Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert (center) and defense minister Ehud Barak (right) with foreign minister Tzipi Livni, daughter of an Irgun terrorist. Barak and Olmert are also senior architects of the 9-11 attacks in the United States.
     
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    The chips of super-thermite found in the dust of the World Trade Center are scientific proof that the government explanation of what happened on 9/11 is nothing but a pack of treasonous lies designed to get public opinion behind a pre-planned war to occupy mineral rich Afghanistan.

    http://www.bollyn.com/middle-east-crisis#article_10558
     
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    The pulverization of the concrete floors of the World Trade Center - and everything on them - was clearly not caused by a fire-induced collapse, as the government investigators claim. The chips found in the dust are proof that an advanced explosive coating was responsible for the complete disintegration of the 220 concrete floors and their metal pans. Nobody from Al Qaida or Afghanistan had anything to do with the explosive demolition of the Twin Towers.
     
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    Why are jews always involved in wars and uprisings..lol

    An Israeli television program in which Gaddafi's Jewish roots are discussed, by his second cousin in Israel. "With a Jewish Grandma, and a Jewish Mother, Gaddafi may seek refuge in Israel", according to Israel Insider.

    http://www.bollyn.com/middle-east-crisis#article_10558
     
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    heres another CHRISTIAN sorry jew posing as a christian...

    Michael D. Evans is a Zionist Jew who poses as a Christian missionary. Here Evans meets with Menachem Begin, the former terrorist head of the Irgun who ordered the bombing of the King David Hotel. Evans was told by Mossad chief Isser Harel of the plan to bomb the World Trade Center in 1980, about the time of this photo. Osama Bin Laden was only 20 years old when Begin became prime minister of Israel.
    See: "America the Target: 9-11 and Israel's History of False Flag Terrorism"

    Source: http://freedomforward.org/
     
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    Five Dancing Israelis

    9-11 Mossad Agents Admit Mission:
    "Our Purpose Was To Document The Event"

    By Christopher Bollyn

    Three of the five "dancing Israelis" appeared on an Israeli television show to explain that they were sent to document the event. See an excerpt of them:

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    The jubilant Israeli intelligence agents caught photographing the attacks on the World Trade Center were allowed to return to Israel where they divulged the purpose of their mission on a radio program: “Our purpose was to document the event."


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    The explosive story of the 5 suspicious Israelis seen celebrating while filming the attacks on the World Trade Center was first reported nationally in American Free Press shortly after September 11. ABC News recently reported on this story and added a comment that deserves attention.

    The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported that at least two of the men were Israeli intelligence (Mossad) agents. The Israeli agents were first seen filming the attack on the WTC while kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of a New Jersey apartment building across the river from lower Manhattan.

    "They seemed to be taking a movie," the resident who noticed them said. The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck her were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.

    She found the behavior so suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police. The FBI was soon on the scene and a statewide bulletin was issued on the van.

    The van belonged to a Mossad front company called Urban Moving Systems. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was pulled over, and five Israelis: Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari, all between 22 and 27 years old, were arrested at gunpoint. One had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock while another carried two foreign passports. Box cutters were found in the van.

    "WE ARE NOT YOUR PROBLEM"

    According to the police report, one of the men said they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. Sivan Kurzberg, the driver, said, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem."

    The case was turned over to the FBI's Foreign Counterintelligence Section because the FBI believed Urban Moving Systems was a “cover for an Israeli intelligence operation,” ABC reported.

    While the FBI searched the company’s Weehawken, N.J., offices, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives, the owner of the company, Dominic Suter, was allowed to flee the country. When FBI agents tried to interview Suter a second time they discovered that he had cleared out of his New Jersey home and fled to Israel.

    When ABC reporters visited Urban Moving Systems, “it looked as if it had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.”

    The Israelis had been held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported, however, FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case, according to ABC.

    The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days and given as many as seven lie-detector tests. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test for 10 weeks and then failed it, according to his lawyer.

    "OUR PURPOSE WAS TO DOCUMENT THE EVENT"

    A deal was struck between Israeli and U.S. government officials after 71 days and the five Israelis were put on a plane, and deported to Israel.

    The detained Israelis discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. One of the men said: "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event."


    See also:

    More evidence on Five Dancing Israelis
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
     
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    JEWISH FOREKNOWLEDGE..

    Why was Kobi Alexander Allowed to Flee?

    The Israeli Fugitive, Odigo, and the Forewarning of 9/11



    Photo: Jacob "Kobi" Alexander, an Israeli military officer connected to the Odigo instant messaging company whose employees and users received an early warning of the 9/11 attacks, has recently become a fugitive from U.S. justice and taken refuge in Israel along with other prime suspects of the terror attacks.

    The case of the Israeli criminal Kobi Alexander is like the proverbial "tip of the iceberg." While Alexander's crimes, through which he became immensely wealthy, are now evident, they are but a very small piece of a much larger Zionist criminal network – connected to the 9/11 terror attacks – which remains hidden beneath the surface.

    Alexander, former head of the Israel-based Comverse Technology, was, until his crimes were discovered, one of the highest paid executives in the United States.

    In the year 2000, for example, he reportedly earned some $102.5 million, with $93 million coming from the "exercise of options." We now know that most of Alexander's money was made through the fraudulent "exercise of options."

    Comverse Technology, the U.S.-based "parent company" of an older and much bigger Israel-based company with the same name, is the owner of the Verint, Ulticom, Starhome, Mercom and Startel companies. The key positions in these companies are all held by Israeli nationals.

    Alexander, was recently allowed to flee the United States after he and two other former Comverse executives were charged with securities, mail and wire fraud by U.S. prosecutors in Brooklyn, New York. A warrant has been issued for his arrest.

    While a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office for the Eastern District of New York told AFP on August 15 that he "expected" that Alexander would turn himself in, The New York Times was rather less optimistic. "It will be a long time – if ever – before Alexander explains himself in a courtroom," the Times wrote on August 21.

    Alexander's lawyer, Robert Morvillo, said he "believed" that Alexander and his family were on vacation in Israel. Alexander, an Israeli citizen and a former military officer, wired $57 million to an account in Israel at the end of July and was evidently allowed to flee the United States.

    "Given Alexander's stature and military service," the Times reported, quoting unnamed law professors, "Israel might be reluctant to readily hand him over." One might reasonably ask, "What does the 54-year old Alexander's "military service" have to do with Israel refusing to extradite him for crimes committed in the United States?"

    While Alexander is obviously connected with Israel's military intelligence apparatus and George Soros through the mutually owned investment fund ComSor, what is not widely reported is his company's close links with Odigo, the Israeli-run instant messaging company that received – and conveyed – urgent warning messages about the imminent terror attacks on the World Trade Center, several hours before the first plane hit.

    The New York Times certainly must be well aware of the personal and business connection between Alexander and Odigo since they did an extensive interview with Avner and Maskit Ronen, the founders of Odigo, for their Sunday magazine in September 2000.

    The magazine article about the Ronen's, titled "Immigrants with an I.P.O." could have been titled "Immigrants on a Mission." The Ronens, both with military backgrounds in computer science, "put down few roots," during their first years in New York City, the Times reported.

    "They made no friends outside the office and had no taste at all for networking at Silicon Alley parties," the NYT Magazine wrote. "They sought neither driver's licenses nor a local physician." The bizarre photograph in the article showed two silhouetted figures hidden in the dark. These were the Ronens, Israeli military officers on a mission in New York.

    ODIGO INSTANT MESSAGES

    There is ample evidence that many Israelis were forewarned of the attacks through an Israeli instant messaging service called Odigo. This story, which presents the clearest evidence of Israeli prior knowledge of the attacks, was reported only very briefly in the U.S. media – and then completely forgotten and deleted.

    According to the news reports, at least two Israel-based employees of Odigo reported having received warnings of an imminent attack in New York City hours before the first plane hit the WTC.

    Odigo, an Israeli-owned company had its U.S. headquarters only two blocks from the World Trade Center, yet Odigo failed to pass the warning it had received on to the authorities in New York, a move that would have saved thousands of lives.

    Two weeks after 9-11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo's vice president, said, "The messages said something big was going to happen in a certain amount of time, and it did – almost to the minute."

    "It was possible that the attack warning was broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received reports of other recipients of the message," Diamandis said.

    Based on the Israeli government figure that some 4,000 Israelis were expected to be in the World Trade Center at the time of the attacks, it seems evident that many Israeli Odigo users got the message.

    Odigo, which offers real-time messaging, has a feature called "People Finder" which allows a user to send an instant message to a large group based on a common characteristic, such as Israeli nationality. "People Finder" allows Odigo users to search for online "buddies," with filters like Israeli nationality, while maintaining user privacy at all times.

    The Internet address of the sender of the warning was reportedly given to the FBI. Two months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the matter. Since then there have been no further media reports about the Odigo warning of 9/11.

    As AFP has previously reported, Odigo, like Comverse and other Israel-based software companies, is really headquartered in Herzliya, Israel, the suburb of Tel Aviv where Israeli military intelligence headquarters are located.

    Typically, with these Israeli-intelligence linked outfits, the company's research and development, and any manufacturing, such as the "black box" computer surveillance equipment produced by Comverse, is all done in Israel. The U.S. offices merely function as distribution, marketing, and financial centers.

    In the case of Comverse, for example, the real parent company was Alexander's Tel Aviv-based Efrat Future Technology Ltd., which carried out "all research, development, and manufacturing," for Comverse, according to a 1992 article in The Jerusalem Post.

    Shortly after 9-11, Odigo was completely taken over by Comverse Technology, which had been part owner of Odigo since early 2000, if not earlier. Shortly after 9/11, five executives from Comverse were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from "insider trading."

    Avner Ronen, the "founder" of Odigo, was Vice President of Business Development of Comverse Technology in October 2005. This indicates that Ronen and Alexander, both Israeli military officers with computer backgrounds, have been close business partners since early 2000.

    "Comverse and Odigo have had a long-standing partnership and together have developed instant communications products and services that we have recently begun to offer to operators around the world," Zeev Bregman, CEO of the Israel-based Comverse Ltd., told The Jerusalem Post in May 2002.
     
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    Al quaeda which i have shown previously does not exist and is a made up group by the cia/mossad had nothing to do with 9/11.

    Jews are guilty as charged.
     
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    What fact? They have no jewish parents and never converted. They dont act or behave jewish and nobody ever clailmed they are jewish.

    Deny reality? LOL Why do you want them to be jewish? So they fit into your fantasy?
     
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    That everyone important is jewish and is part of a huge conspiracy to control the world? Quit crazy you know.
     
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    Wich you didnt.
    Let me gues made up by "the jews"

    All jews, some jews, wich jews in fact? Miss campbell and the world leaders who arent jewish?
     
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    I've heard another theory, I'm not sure I believe it but it would be interesting to hear people's views on it.

    According to this theory, Al Qaeda performed the attacks so that America would attack and, effectively, colonize Afghanistan. As such, the US would have control over a Muslim country and thus can no longer one-sidedly support Israel. Afghanistan would enjoy the same protection as Israel.

    Thoughts?
     
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    You don't even have a clue what my avatar is! It's the coat of arms of an old Scottish family-my ancestors in fact.

    'Our purpose was to document events'. No matter how you try to twist those words into something else the meaning is perfectly clear. What events, and how did they know there was going to be an event to document? The Israelis did not say, 'we saw what happened, whipped our cameras out and documented the event'. They said they were in New York 'to document events'. That was their purpose in being there.
    I really don't know how much clearer it could be.

    'Purpose'; the reason for which something exists or is done etc.
     
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    Wait a minute...
    What evidence (sources) are there that we know exactly what OBL wanted from the actions he took? Whilst he may have said that is was "a taste of what the ME has had from the US", that doesn't really give any specific reasons on why it happened, or what was expected.

    Keeping our troops tied up may have been his real goal.
    Getting support from more Muslims by hoping that the US presence would rub them the wrong way.
    Perhaps just "kill as many as possible" and to hell with the consequences.

    It's all speculation isn't it?
     
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    I admitted no such thing and identified that as one of the several things YOU made up. And they, just like millions of others were alerted by the massive plumes of smoke.
     
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    Actually, I quoted what they said. YOU are the one who made up quotes and attributed to them. Twisting their words to mean something else. You lied. And, as always you cant distinguish between the real world and the (*)(*)(*)(*) you just made up.
     

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