Why do blacks commit so many murders?

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you want to blame genetics?

    which gene?
     
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    Seems more logical than blaming whitey.
     
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    It most likely is genetic. It is not one gene but a combination. People do not have nearly the free will that some assume. A few years back James Watson got into a lot of trouble for saying so about the problems Africa faces. But if one looks into the situation one sees that there are more genetic differences between blacks and whites besides skin color that can't be explained away by environment causes.

    A point in this direction can be noted by the fact that nearly every black man in America who succeeds at something other than arhletics or entertainment, has a non-black parent. Obama for instance.
     
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    A news article this morning says that 92% of crime in NYC is committed by non whites. Where is Obama and Sharpton on this???
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you don't actually know.
     
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    Sure we know, we just can't say it here on the Forum. :wink:
     
  7. TOG 6

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    Stating facts is racist?
    Asking questions about those facts is racist?
    Not sure where you got your definition of "racism". but it sure wasn't the dictionary.

    Now then...
    Care to address tho questions I asked?

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    Still no answer, eh?
    Why is that?
     
  8. TOG 6

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    Just to make sure I have you straight here.
    Blacks commit so many murders because of their life choices, their culture and their lack of social and familial responsibility?
    If not, please use the correct terms.
     
  9. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Not so much.

    US: 4.35/100k
    Malawi: 36/100k
    Sierra Leone 34/100k
    Martinique 4.2/100k
    Senegal 8.7/100k
    Liberia 4.0/100k
     
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    No, stating facts in and of itself isn't racist, although I myself have been called that. I'm sorry, but at first it was just the way you worded it, like, why is the black crime rate WAAY out of proportion. It sounded like maybe you were pointing it out not to help fix the problem, but with glee. Still, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, cause I don't wanna do what some lefties do and call everyone a racist, then I saw your signature. I'm sincerely asking if there is another interpretation of your sig, because I may have read it wrong. In fact, as I reread it now, I'm seeing another interpretation, if what you are saying is that Rosa had the right to sit on the front of the bus, and you have the right to own an AR-15, then I apologize, because I agree with that, I'm not a gun grabber.

    More on topic, blacks got treated worse in American history than any other group, and now have the highest crime rates, so this makes me think the lefties may have a point, because what happened back then does have some impact still today, the question is how much, and I'm not sure what the answer is.

    Sometimes it's hard to draw the line between personal responsibility and circumstance.
     
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    It IS way out of proportion with the population.

    You are correct. Apology accepted.
     
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    Same reason why big cities have more crime than rural areas, opportunity. http://www.nationaldialoguenetwork.org/poverty-and-crime/
    Crime has increased during every recession http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/01/27/us-usa-economy-crime-idUSTRE50Q6FR20090127
     
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    well you start by making the claim that big cities have more crime because of opportunity, then you link to an article that has nothing to do with the opportunity in large cities and simply talks about poverty being the cause of crime... well there is tons of poverty in rural areas as well so this statement so far has not been proven... and once we dive into per capita between large and rural cities, as far as number of shops, cars, etc etc... it would appear there is an equal opportunity per capita in big cities and rural areas... the only difference is the dramatic difference in crime and homicides, not the lack of opportunity... like I said, every poor person who could, moves out... leaving a concentrated cesspool of criminals who thrive in social environments and wouldn't want to leave the city despite its awful characteristics...

    then you go on to say crime is affected by recessions, and you actually link to a relevant article... I'm not disputing that recessions may impact short-term crime rates, but overall crime rates have continued to drop nationally even during the last few recessions, so crime is actually still going down, and has prior to this last recession... so I won't say its a large impact or still ongoing today, its very much over as an affect by the recession...

    but none of this still explains why poor white people don't commit an equal number of crime despite more white people being in poverty... and more white people being affected by the recession actually... so wouldn't you expect a dramatic amount of crime to be perpetrated by white america, and a huge spike during the recession like you wanted to cite... surely we should see that rise... yet we don't... and once we break it down further like I recommend, we see blacks in rural areas are far less likely to commit crimes, not from a lack of opportunity as you suggest, but purely because they CHOOSE to live a better life in a better area...

    so what is it about city people, who across any ethnicity are more likely to commit crime... its clearly not poverty since we have rural examples, its clearly not opportunity as we have rural examples as well...

    I say its a matter of mindset... those who seek out social connection to others, and want to be surrounded by constant social interaction, are far more likely to commit crimes against others... and those who seek out more space, solitude if you will, are far less likely to commit crime... I say its a direct result of those who prefer to live among others, or to have their own space... those who seek their own space and land are far less likely to commit crimes... so why don't we dive deeper into the psychology of people who prefer large cities, and find out whats wrong with them that causes them to be more prone to commit crimes...
     
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    But that type of behavior is closer to the god of the Bible than not closer to the god of the Bible - he committed genocide ("flood"), mass-murder in many many verses of the Bible, approved of slavery, approved of killing innocent people (gays, etc.), so yes, they probably are indeed into religion.
     
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    yes, Norwegians are better than Americans, vastly more community minded and altruistic.
     
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    Have you lived everywhere in america? Have you lived everywhere in norway?
     
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    No. They are most likely irreligious or Atheist. A non Islamic mass shooter, killer, especially those who do it for thrill or fun, is most likely someone who doesn't believe in religion or "organized " religion. Jim Jones, Timothy McVeigh, that movie theater shooter, the Norwegian mass shooter, the guy who shot that Senator in AZ, colombine shooters....Atheists. you can pretty much make the logical assumption that heinious murderer who is not Muslim is not affiliated with religion and it is not a part of their lives.
     
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    I bet the anti-abortion Colorado mass-murderer (2 days ago) was religious....the "soul" is the problem (there is no "soul", as such) - when a zygote is perceived as having a "soul" then it puts that zygote on exactly the same level as grown people (since they also have "souls" - no difference, really.) Religion is dangerous because it distorts reality in favor of magic.

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    Can you condemn the god of the bible for genocide, and many other mass-murderers that he committed or approved of in the Bible, and approving of slavery, and approving of killing gays? Can you? As a Modern Secular Humanist I of course can, and do. How about you, BPman?
     
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    I don't know and don't think anybody really knows the answer. Probably it is something about Africa or maybe it is something about America. Or probably both. But nobody should forget that blacks are also the primary victim of those crimes. Anyway, whatever the causes the only solution for this is more opportunities and inevitability of the punishment.
     
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    Somethin' to do,I imagine.Beats workin' fir a livin'.
    Er studyin' ... crackin' some books or learning to play music.
    Making it into a seminary or abbey.Let alone ta church and
    that confessional.
    I mean,likes what are they gonna say to Father in Confessional.
    Maybe ... Hay Pops,I done sinned Today.Like what are
    ya gonna do dude.Report me to my old man or maybe Obama
    Our Lord & Savior.
    I mean,like Pops, It's Sooooooo Hard,
    It's SOOOOO hard

    I tell ya.
    Bein' a Black man today.
     
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    Norwegians have a unique and highly prudent philosophy towards life.
    One of Low Expectation.They don't live to win some Lotto_Or have a
    fancy home.Or to be some Chairman of the Board.They live simple yet
    realistic lives remiss from the realm of quiet desperation.
    It is not enough to be Industrious,so are ants.In fact ants beat man every
    day at that endeavor.What good is a house on an intolerable planet.
    Should man expect great things of himself.
    Hear beyond the range of sound.
    See beyond the range of sight.
    What'ever we leave to God ... God does
    and blesses us.
    The Norwegians are blessed with Peace of mind.
    They wont not for some American Dream.

    " " A man is rich in proportion of the number of
    things he can afford to let alone.
    No man ever followed his genius till it misled him."
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    Wow, the only internet thread out of thousands about black crime stats which isn't racist!

    It's a toughie, though.

    Every other thread about black crime stats is filled with low level operators all claiming they're not racists.

    Some terrorist libs even stated one time that "the entire swathe of halfwits posting black crime threads all over the internet 24/7 are all racist scumbags who need their faces rearranged by angry lawnmowers!"

    Such violence!
     
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    I'm not all that familiar with the black nations that have a low murder rate, but I would guess that we're talking sparse populations.

    Perhaps you have some theories on the subject?
     
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    As much as I am loathe to think of land redistribution as good, it worked wonders in Japan after Macarthur redistributed farm land among the Japanese. Most Japanese farmers would rather sell their souls than the few acres of land they were given by the occupying forces.
     

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