Why Gun Control is doomed to fail......

unsubtantiated

 

No, they're not. I said legitimate reasons, and being a felon is not a legitimate reason.

 

And you cited none.....because there are none

 

Your ignorance of fact is noted. Back on ignore for you.

 

Yet you advocate depriving people of guns to be protected by them

 

You failure to make a case is noted......and everyone can see it

 

Vegas giants, you troll too much. I'm not a felon. At the same time I do not register firearms nor do I wait to buy them. It's none of the government's business.

At a young age, I watched the original Red Dawn. In it is a scene where the head monkey in charge ordered his men to raid all gun and sporting good stores, confiscating all form 4473s. It weighed on my mind for years and the more I watched gun bans, local confiscations, import bans, bans on magazines, etc., etc. the more that Red Dawn scene played out.

We have a Second Amendment for a reason. It took Hollywood to illustrate how that Right could one day become paramount. We also have a Fourth Amendment and, sorry, but forfeiting one Right to exercise another is NOT probable cause. It is tyranny and a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

I resent that you call people felons that choose to exercise a Right to Privacy. Furthermore, you cannot show us any instance where background checks or registration prevents the criminal from obtaining weaponry. I can show you examples of how that kind of legislation DOES precede confiscation. Apparently, you choose to dabble in seditious activities and do anonymously. How convenient! You don't want your Right to Privacy violated. Neither do I. You keep your identity hidden because you say seditious and silly things - sometimes even engage in fighting words. I keep my privacy intact to insure that nobody tries to take what is legitimately mine. You just think you're special . You must be a Democrat.

 

YOU troll too much. Your gun rights are not unlimited. Maybe you are tired of being on a GUN CONTROL FORUM where we discuss GUN CONTROL. You are free to find a firearm lovers forum if you like and no one will challenge you. But your opinion is certainly no more valid than mine.

 

Your opinion isn't valid. Just because you or any other man tells me my Rights are not unlimited means nothing to me. This country was built on a foundational principle:

"[You have Rights] antecedent to all earthly governments:Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; Rights, derived from the Great Legislator of the universe." John Adams, second president of the United States

 

And every right has restrictions. To say your gun rights are unlimited is laughable. That isn't even an opinion....it is a fact. And your quote is not part of our constitution.

 

And yet, you continue to respond...

 

Unalienable Rights have no restrictions. The earliest court decisions ruled:

"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power."

Cockrum v State 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)

That decision's precedent was upheld all the way through the United States Supreme Court until the SCOTUS legislated from the bench. But, you're wrong. The Bill of Rights was intended to limit government, not the people.

 

A skunk may have the same Rights as any other animal, yet no one is in a hurry to invite a skunk to tea !
Author- me....

Gun control advocates are like skunks, they are just as valid as anybody else, but they have the stench of Gun Control, and it permiates everything about them.

 

Well thank god that does not apply to guns then because gun control has been upheld by SCOTUS

 

You fail. No point in arguing with someone with a lack of facts... and you don't have ANY.

 

They have nothing but stench and a wise man said to never argue with an idiot. He will only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

I think if trolling is the best they can do, we should not feed the trolls.

 

Huh. Where have I heard this?

 

Why gun control is doomed to fail...

3D printing

 

Your words to me. I told you it was a wise man that told me.

 

You said it first and best.

I keep trying to tame the wild Elmo !
lol.....

 

I agree.....
He is wise, there are others here too,
Bryant, Turtledude, Smalltown Guy..... and others.....

I bask in their knowledge.....

 

Researching why someone may choose to commit murder with a firearm, and what the motivating factors in reaching that conclusion is far different from merely counting the number of deaths that are the result of use of a firearm, and then differentiating between homicide and suicide.

 

There is one good reason to avoid an FFL. Cost. It's usually much cheaper to buy a gun directly in a private sale than to have an FFL involved. That FFL has to make a profit, so if I buy a used gun from an FFL, I have to pay for that profit.

 

That's interesting. I'd read that thread. Any more details?

I've only seen violence emerge from failed states, whether or not there's lots of guns about. But the unarmed areas seem to come under control quicker. Bear in mind this initially means the populace has little freedom, but that also means commerce and basic services can resume.

 

I think you have to, if you want to stop the felons getting handguns. I think there should be a defense for victims of fraud, of course, but in that case the onus of proof should be on the seller to show they had taken all reasonable precautions to ensure they were following the law. The "should know" qualification is too passive: what "should" one know, if they haven't actively sought any answers?