Will We Ever Shed The Hate?

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  1. rkhames

    rkhames Well-Known Member

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    Who did that documentary? The Clinton News Network? The Balanced Budget Act was passed in 1997. At the beginning of his second term, and it was started by the GOP's contract with America. Further, it did not create a surplus. That claim of a surplus came from the fact that the deficit did not rise as much as the previous budget had. The difference was called a surplus, but they conviently ignored that it was still a deficit.

    I always said that Clinton ran on a platform of being a draft dodging, pot smoking, womanizing SOB. I think it was stupid for him to get impeached for keeping that particular campaign promise.

    Why would that be? Obama was supporting Government funded abortions, open borders, carbon credits (knowing full well that he was invested in the Chicago Carbon Exchange), and creating a recovery that was based on temporary jobs. While he was in office, his administration smuggled weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels, used the IRS to target Tea Party groups (if Nixon had not resigned, he would have been impeached for having the IRS target Democrat groups), Obama enacted laws through Executive Order (very unconstitutional of him) and he had the DOJ/FBI use a fake dossier paid for the DNC and Clinton Campaign to spy on the Trump campaign. Frankly, I do not see much for a Republican to support. We also need to remember what Obama said during the build up to Obamacare, “Elections have consequences. We won, you lost. Get over it.” Sounds to me, he was not looking to reach across the aisle.

    You know, in order to justify the Impeachment of a President that had not broken any law, Nadler quoted George Mason. The problem with that is that the George Mason's motion in writing the US Constitution was shot down. Mason wanted the Congress to be able to Impeach a President for Maladministration. Yet, that is exactly what the Democrat controlled Congress did. Think about it. Andrew Johnson was impeached for violating the Tenure of Office Act. Nixon, if he had not resigned, would have been impeached for numerous items including aiding and abetting breaking and entering. Clinton was impeached for Perjury. Yet, President Trump did not break any laws. Add into the equation that Schiff and Nadler both spoke out against an impeachment based on a partisan vote. Joe Biden, even he is not currently in the Senate, sent a memo to all Democrats in the Senate supporting not calling witness during the Clinton Impeachment. Why did they change their minds for President Trump? It is simple. They don't like him. They don't like that he beat their heir apparent. They impeached him for maladministration. I am sure that is making George Mason grin in his coffin, but the rest of the founding fathers are decidedly unhappy.
     
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    Here is when civil discourse went out the window:
     
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    rkhames Well-Known Member

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    Your really that naive? Obama said, get in your friends and families faces. Eric Holder said, they go low kick 'em. Hate groups like ANTIFA and BLM. You really think that the Democrats are going to stop hating just because Trump is not in office? Who was it that was physically attacking Trump supporters at his 2016 campaign rallies? I'll give you a hint. It wasn't Republicans.

    If you want to see who is behind all the hate in this country, they will be holding a convention on July 13-16 in Milwaukee, WI.
     
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    Yes, where we gave all of the proceeds of our labor to the State, and in exchange, it took care of us.
    Sound familiar?
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You lost me at “Obama was scandal free”. Pathetic.
     
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    It doesn't ever seem to occur to the left.
     
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    How do you compromise with a side whose stated goal is the removal of the president before he even takes office and a campaign of obstructionism on EVERY issue simply so the president can’t get a win?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Are you FORGETTING that the GOP had the SAME GOAL when it came to Obama?

    Furthermore I did not ask to compromise with a "side"!

    I asked you to pick SOMEONE on the other side of the aisle and try to find COMMON GROUND on which you can reach a COMPROMISE on an issue.

    Someone would be an INDIVIDUAL, not a side!
     
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    Guys chill! Everything is going according to Trump's plans. The left are now basically 2 democrat parties (center left and extreme socialist communist). Being "Obama" left isn't enough for the crazies anymore. Just sit back and enjoy watching them self destruct.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    So 7/8ths of the media and ALL of the Left AND the Independents are extremists according to criminal IMPOTUS supporters?

    Got it!

    :roflol:
     
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    All humans are extremists. It is simply in their nature. Such is why hatred can never be shed or otherwise extinguished.

    The reason the united states is so divided, is the simple fact it is basic human nature. The human species does not look for unity, it seeks out division. It is driven by differences to allow for an "us against them" mentality to thrive, as it has done since its inception. The species is obsessed with finding differences and excuses to justify strife and killing itself off through whatever means. If matters of politics and religion did not exist to fuel hostility, matters such as height and eye color would serve just as well in their place.
     
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    Facts NOT in evidence duly noted FTR!

    "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America"
     
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    None of which pertains to hatred being basic human nature.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your PERSONAL OPINION fails to refute the factually documented history of the FOUNDING of our nation.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    And what has the founding of the united states done to change basic human nature? What has it done to eliminate hatred? What has it done to eliminate party loyalty?
     
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    Those bridges were on roads that people who elected Trump didn't want to travel. The animosity started when the left tried to force everyone to ride along. That is a truth the left still doesn't understand and they believe somehow they were cheated. They were not, they just refused to listen and still do.
     
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    Your PERSONAL OPINION about "human nature" is irrelevant and fails to withstand even cursory scrutiny.
     
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    As an example of hate, you bring in Steve Scalise, a victim and almost murdered as a result of Progressive hatred slobbered by your resident Communist. This attack followed the Progressive attack attempt on Gabby Gifford's life because she wasn't liberal enough. In case you didn't notice, Trump already stuck it to the proponents of big government, central command and control in a way Progressives can't argue ,,, by not letting them pass the cost of their love for high taxes to Americans.
     
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    Does it now?

    Since its inception, the human species has demonstrated behavior that would suggest it has been hardwired at the genetic, intellectual, and even spiritual level, to destroy itself through whatever means necessary. Suggesting that hatred is part and parcel for the species, and is in fact a key side effect of possessing intelligence. Every scientific advancement can, in some way, be directly linked to efforts at developing greater and greater ways to go about killing as many groups of individuals as possible.

    If hatred were not integral to the human species, race relations would not be what they are presently. One cannot have racism without hatred.
     
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    Some repub cretin is also calling for murdering socialists now.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    WTF?

    Which extremist rightwing disinformation source did that load of bovine excrement come from?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner

     
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    Your PERSONAL OPINION about "human nature" is still irrelevant given that it has no bearing on the founding of our nation.
     
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    I didn't "choose" Steve Scalise, he stood up and got counted. It's a free country, you are free to say anything you want. That said, there are consequences in words. Scalise's words had consequences that exposed his likeminded Congressmen. Because of his words, we are now aware of exactly what drives the party of Trump - vengeance and hatred.
     
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    On the plus side, Gifford’s husband is going to trounce Martha McSally in the Senate race, which will give Arizona two Democratic Senators.
     
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    So electricity was discovered as a way to kill. What about vaccines. Meant to kill as many people as possible. Scientific developments have made cancer curable, not sure how that kills people.

    I can just imagine, as the transistor was being invented, the inventors were sitting around with diabolical looks in their eyes, if only we could give it a little more juice we could amplify other humans out of existence.

    Or Henry Ford getting this bright idea to build cars that everyone could afford, so they would go out and kill each other and them selves with them.
     
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