Woman Blocks Man From Entering His Apt Building -- By The Way, He's Black

Me and @Steve N disagree on quite a few subjects and I’ve not known him to spew insults like he referenced.

Disagreement is one thing. Irrational tirades and insults are another.

 

What is the synonym of legal? It is absurd to say it was illegal for her to ask him questions for bypassing a security measure.

A security door is not an optional element — they are implemented for reason.
She had every right to ask him not to bypass security.

 

What legal authority is required?

 

If I am going in the side door of the hotel I'm staying at and using my room key to open it and someone comes walking and tries to get in on my key I certainly ask to see their key and if they can't produce it I won't let them through the door. Doesn't take any authority.

 

Bluesguy, no, you won't.

 

The woman got fired, the man isn't pursing charges or making it a civil matter, plus this is what almost two months old? What is the problem.

 

Many don't like blacks getting 'uppity', I guess, particularly when it is where they live.

 

Have and would do again, I woke up one night at the Holiday Inn on Biscayne BLVD in Miami with someone in my room trying to rob me.

 

No, that was someone else, maybe Matt Damon, but it was not you.

 

My understanding is that a woman had been assaulted in the entry way a few weeks back and management had ask residents to please keep the entry secured an only authorized persons be allowed to enter.

 

Stop making false statements.

 

You are wrong, Bluesguy.

 

Which makes this even more disturbing, this man pushed through a secured entry point — the woman was using past knowledge to identify a potential risk and address it — not once was she really rude nor did she make a single race related remark yet she was fired for trying to be safe.

What an absurd time that we are living in — calls of racism overrule actual racism.

This is becoming don’t report suspicious black people or your life will be destroyed.
And they wonder why all races flee when they take over an area...

 

Your understanding, where did you pull that from.

 

So in other words she didn't secure the door behind her and I guess when the man got to his apartment and took out his key and opened the door it still didn't dawn on her that he actually lived there.

 

Her TV interview

"ST. LOUIS • A white woman in a video that has drawn national coverage said Tuesday that she was doing what the condo board asks all residents to do for safety – never allow building access to someone they don’t know – when she blocked a black man at the entrance to the downtown loft building where both of them live.

"So when I noticed an individual that I did not know, my only intent was to follow the directions that I had been given by our condo association board members, repeatedly, and that is to never allow access to any individual you do not know," Hilary Thornton said in an interview that aired Tuesday on Fox 2.

Thornton said in the Fox 2 interview that Toles came to the door of the loft building as she had the door cracked to let her dog outside while she held its leash.

She said she asked if he had a key fob to open the door. "He would not answer me," she said. "He would not show me one."

Thornton says Toles forced his way past her to get in the door, something she says was not captured on the videos he posted. "There was an altercation at the front door and that's how he got in the front door," she said.

Fox 2 interviewed another woman who lives in the same building as Toles and Thornton. That woman said she thought Thornton's actions were appropriate and she would have done the same thing. "
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cle_db7c6cf5-80f2-51d0-a0b6-5038b485396c.html

 

No.......

 

Nope.........

 

Yes.......

 

Oh I absolutely agree with you she shouldn’t have followed him - either one of two things was true
1) he was a resident of the building and posed her no harm
2) he was breaking and entering — likely with malicious intent

Upon his refusal to enter the building through security appropriately she should have called the police if she felt he was a threat. He could have harmed her if he was and she acted stupidly.

I have seen nothing indicating her motives were based on his race — no one can point to any event that shows she was racist, not her social media history, friend network, or in her actions but she was labeled one anyway and lost her job.

There are several news stories about actual racism:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...filmed-racist-rant-black-neighbor/1804539002/

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018...er-shooting-racism-black-church-jeffersontown

This event though, I really do not believe was.
It’s a dangerous precedent being set.

 

Not really ~ she just needed to call the police.

 

I will agree at that point she should of changed course - I think had he been white though she would still have her job and we would not be reading about this too

 

yes, we all know those are the way your supposed to act, but if the suspicious person is black, I would just ignore them and let them pass going forward if I were her - she can continue to be suspicious of white people doing the same - that seems to be the message being sent from this case

this should of been a local issue, once addressed both apologize to the other and move on with life - both knowing their new neighbors

letting suspicious people in to the condo without using proper security protocol is endangering the other condo members, why move to a condo with such security if your gonna be upset if a neighbor calls you out on trying to bypass such security, he should of saw it as a good thing and showed his key fob, it's his condo too, this security keeps him and his stuff safe too

 

As I said earlier this has happened on several occasions at hotels I was staying and a friendly "you got a key" and they smile and show it and then "have a nice day". If the person white or black had pushed their way through and went up the stairs I would have gone to the front desk and reported it.

 

Nope, see the cite.