WSJ: Trump colluding with Ukraine

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  1. stone6

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    That says nothing. Try and explain your position again.
     
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    It is not necessary to apply a law. In this case the law should not be applied. Why? Because it is a political situation, not a judicial one. There should be a crime or a tort. There is neither. The laws would do better to avoid politics.
     
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    That's TBD. Have you read the Whistleblower laws? If the law requires that the whistleblower's report be communicated to Congress with either the agreement of the DNI or the IG, then NOT communicating such to Congress would be a violation of that law. Do you agree with that?
     
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    Of course. But the matter should be dropped. It should not be applied for the reason I mentioned above.
     
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    No ... ACTUALLY what Isn't Hillarious is the Fact that both Joe
    and his lunch Bucket Son made millions by how ... Abusing Power.
    In the least.Now we're being told it's not worth reporting.
    I guess because since it's Jos & Son there couldn't Possible
    be even " a smidgen of Corruption ".
    This is Historic.The lengths to which a populace has to put up
    with this 5th Column MSM.
    This Press and MSM are not ever going to be big enough to
    play the American Populace as if a Humpty Dumpty.
     
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    So, you are saying that even if the law was broken, it should not be enforced. Why? And, if you don't know what the whistleblower's report is (with which the IG apparently agreed), how can you write-off the report and violation of the law as "political?"
     
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    I offered an opinion. You disagree with it. Let it go.
     
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    Simple question...how can you logically determine what's in the whistleblower's complaint is political, when you don't know what's in it?
     
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    I offered an opinion. You disagree with it. Let it go.
     
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    Fine with me. Just pointing out that your posts carry more weight when they're logical thoughts. I seriously doubt that many people care what you or I are saying simply because we're the ones saying it.
     
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    In order to not go insane I guess the rationale on the Left
    is to treat this Obvious,unreported Biden Scandal just as they did
    with The Clinton Foundation Scandal and the Hillary E-mail Scandal.
    Just act as if a nothingburger and move along.Like with most the Obama
    Scandals.However things have changed.The Press and MSM are now
    at an all time low.A Majority of Americans no longer trust or even use
    the Press and MSM to get their news.Because even the " supposed "
    Fact Checkers are corrupt.Again this is what Electing Obama
    accomplished.With Trumps' election came a huge sigh of relieve.
    If Hillary were elected we would now be in the,throes of a Banana Republic.
    Being given Big Brother marching orders as if Reading from Orwell
    or Kafka.
     
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    I assure you.... it exists!
     
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    Ohhh! Now I get it! And Trump refuses to turn over the whistleblower's report because he wants to protect Biden...

    That's makes a lot of sense.... in somebody's head.
     
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    Of course they are! Because you know who knows the contents of the calls the whistleblower denounce? Why... the Ukranians, of course! Now they have the $250M and a recording of Trump trying to extort them. And if Trump doesn't want that out in October 2020... he better "play nice"

    Yet another foreign government that has Trump in their pocket. The whole world makes U.S. policy now. The whole world except the American people, that is!

    You guys could not have picked a bigger idiot to make President!
     
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    Of coursr I am serious. You keep accusing him that he acted on behalf of his client, the president, another liberal ie. As it turned out he acted upon the State Department request. Hell of a difference, which of course you completely ignored. Bottom line. There is compromising material about some Americans and the Ukrainians are willing to hand it over to the U.S authorities.That explains the liberal media panic. They are trying to protect their own.
     
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    Let the courts or the House of Representatives decided services rendered are a gift!
     
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    Do you have a link to the State Department request claim?
     
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    You mean by pointing out criminality by Biden?
     
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    Might be a good idea to understand what the "whistleblower" was concerned about, prior to launching the "Biden Investigation." Or, do you object to that?
     
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    You mean the 'whistleblower' that had no first hand knowledge?
     
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    It not only makes perfect sense but it's perfectly realized.
    No need for scripted Faux headlines { like this scumbagger MSM }
    has operated on since Trump won in Nov.2016.
    No need for even fact checking.Lunch Bucket Joe,managed again
    to pop off his usual Big Mouth.Only this time he did On video
    and bragged like a Charles Manson acolyte as if couldn't be
    Prouder.
    It Real America { Not your MSM-infested Faux America } this
    is what is known as a game changer.
    Biden got caught.BiG Time.His Son was rewarded BiG Time with
    White Priviledge access with a Father who used his status to enrichen
    both he and his son.There is no debating that.
    So what does this Hellish MSM and Democrats do.Double down.
    Ignore the Real Story and Invent a cover story.Make a Joe Biden &
    Son Scandal into a President Trump Scandal.
    No way in hell or High water real America is about to be Fooled again.
    This may end up being the final nail in the coffin of the Free Press
    and MSM.
     
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    In that case, it should be easy to discredit the "whistleblower's" concerns. Either release them or turn them over to Congress.
     
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    Whatever. Let's hear the claim...that way we can all judge. The DNI is scheduled to testify to Congress next week. Let him bring along the "whistleblower" and the IG who apparently agreed with the whistleblower. Put them all under oath and let them testify.
     
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    Claim of hearsay? Might as well be CNN.
     

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