y Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin

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  1. Margot2

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    Kushner wanted a back channel from the Russian embassy to the Kremlin.. Criminal? Maybe not, but most certainly stupid.. Why would he risk giving any appearance of wrong doing?

    And, you know he was taking orders from Trump.

    Why would a US citizen do business with a Russian bank under US sanctions? How stupid is that?
     
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    It is my understanding that since PGP was released on the net it has been possible to thwart even NSA efforts to overcome the kind of serious encryption used by nation states that focus on communication security.
     
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    Source please. Why should there be any concern about appearances?
     
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    Feel free to source the OP :).
     
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    Jared Kushner didn't suggest Russian communications channel in meeting, source says


    A December meeting between Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and one of the senior advisers in the Trump administration, and Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak at Trump Tower focused on Syria, a source familiar with the matter told Fox News Monday.

    During the meeting the Russians broached the idea of using a secure line between the Trump administration and Russia, not Kushner, a source familiar with the matter told Fox News. That follows a recent report from The Washington Post alleging that Kushner wanted to develop a secure, private line with Russia.

    The idea of a permanent back channel was never discussed, according to the source. Instead, only a one-off for a call about Syria was raised in the conversation.

    In addition, the source told Fox News the December meeting focused on Russia's contention that the Obama administration's policy on Syria was deeply flawed.

    Details of the meeting follow a NBC report that Kushner, who is married to Trump’s daughter Ivanka, is currently under FBI scrutiny as part of the investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    Kushner suggested the use of Russian diplomatic facilities as a way to shield pre-inauguration discussions with Kislyak from monitoring, according to The Post.

    Kislyak allegedly then relayed the suggestion to his superiors in Moscow. That was based on intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials, although neither the meeting nor the communications of the Americans involved were under U.S. surveillance, officials told the Post.

    The source has told Fox News that Kushner is eager to tell Congress about the meeting and any others of interest.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nications-channel-in-meeting-source-says.html

    Seems like the the whole thing has been misreported by the MSM trying to indict Kuschner
     
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    Too late... the US picked up the Russian Ambassador reporting it to the Kremlin back in December BEFORE he told the US about it last month.
     
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    So what? This report refutes the WaPo story and it was not a permanent channel anyway, just to discuss the one issue where Russia was in disagreement with Obama.
     
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    You mean because Obama expelled 35 Russian hackers including 4 who were wanted by Interpol for cyber crimes?
     
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    No.......
     
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    "according to intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials"

    So you believe the Washington Post has reviewed transcripts of intercepted communications and leaked the contents in violation of The Espionage Act? ;-)
     
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    Just more crude ineffective Fake News.
     
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    In violation, no. If there was a warrant there were legal grounds period.
     
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    The Washington Post had a warrant? ;-)
     
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    The Kushner angle pretty much destroys the collusion narrative, because this supposedly took place weeks after the election was over. If there had been such collusion― the story the Left has been peddling for six months were true―there would have been no need for a discussion in December about opening communications channels. The lines of communication would long have been up and running.
     
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    That's prob what they are looking for. someone to say marching orders came from him.
     
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    The two thing are not mutually exclusive, put on your critical thinking hat please......the backdoor was even more important after the election as it was even more important now to cover it (the collusion) up.
     
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    Trump now moving to block the Comey testimony before the open hearing.
     
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    If they had previously been in collusion, the backdoors would have already been established and in operation. You have destroyed your own fake narrative, with your own fake narratives.

    Sad!
     
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    I see McCaskill is on that list.

    Claire McCaskill, Who Claimed to Have Never Met With Russian Ambassador, Actually Attended Black-Tie Affair at His Home

    Was she lying, or just mentally infirm?

    Earlier this year, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) claimed she never had a "call or meeting" with the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak -- "ever." She was trying to make a point in a thinly veiled attempt to suggest a connection between President Donald Trump's campaign and Russia.

    "No call or meeting w/Russian ambassador. Ever. Ambassadors call members of Foreign [Relations Committee]," she tweeted.

    The Democrat's words are now coming back to bite her. On Monday, CNN reported that McCaskill actually attended a "black-tie reception" at the Russian ambassador's home in Washington, D.C., in 2015.

    COLLUSION!
     
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    She colluded with Russia to elect trump! Lock her up!
    According to Sessions group gatherings don't count so she's fine
     
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    She's a liar, and it seems that lying and assassination porn isn't really working for Dems any more:

    Andrew Malcolm reveals at McClatchy that the public has had enough:

    A CBS News Poll the other day revealed that a whopping three out of four Americans believe the current tone and lack of civility in U.S. politics and public discussions actually encourages violence among some people.

    Sixty-eight percent in that poll also said the tone and civility of American politics have deteriorated in recent years, an opinion that conservatives, liberals and independents were united in holding.

    [​IMG]

    No GOP Nebraska state officials are wishing death upon the leaders of the Democrat House caucus.

    The Russia collusion story is now in full blowback mode, with obvious questions being asked about the Obama administration, which failed to take action against what the Democrats now hype as a veritable Pearl Harbor, an "act of war." Watching Dems talk their way out this one will be fun.

    Coming attractions: the multimillion-dollar donations to the Clinton Foundation after Hillary approved sale of 20% of our uranium reserves to Russia, and then-president Obama's open mic comment telling Russia's then-president that he would have "more flexibility" after the election, which looks a lot like outright collusion.

    Then there is utter scandal of the "Russia dossier" and its subsidy and use by James Comey's FBI. IBD:

    It has been publicly known since at least early January that Fusion GPS was behind the discredited dossier, which claimed that Russia had backmailable information on Trump, and that it was a notorious opposition research firm that was often enlisted to dig up dirt on Republicans, including a 2012 smear campaign against a donor to Mitt Romney's campaign

    As the Post notes, one of the Fusion's founders, Peter Fritsch, contributed "at least $1,000 to the Hillary Victory Fund and the Hillary for America campaign." ...

    That was strike one against the anti-Trump conspiracy mongers.

    Strike two happened Sunday when an internal memo from CNN Money's executive editor Rich Barbieri leaked. The memo told reporters that "no one should publish any content involving Russia without coming to me or (VP of Premium Content Video) Jason (Farkas) first. ... No exception."

    That memo came after CNN was forced to retract a story it had posted on its website claiming that Trump advisor Anthony Scaramucci was under investigation for ties to Russia. Turns out the story – based on a single anonymous source – was false. CNN pulled the story and apologized to Scaramucci.

    This wasn't the first Russia-related story pushed by the mainstream press that turned out to be exaggerated or false[.]

    So the media Russia narrative has collapsed, and there is almost certain to be blowback damaging the credibility not just of CNN, but of the entire MSM.

    The real question is whether or not Democrats will be able to regroup and drop their dead-ender resistance strategy. My belief is that this will be impossible. Too much of their base is enveloped in the fantasy narrative of Russia installing Trump, whom they hate with an unnatural passion.

    Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi struggles against her rivals, a leader so ineffective that Republicans endorse her. She will not go quietly, and she controls a lot of donations.

    Unless something changes dramatically, the Democrats are positioning themselves for a midterm election defeat that will be as surprising as Trump's 2016 victory over Hillary Clinton. Normally, a president's party loses substantially in the first midterm. That norm could be shattered.

    Speaking of Hillary, here is one more sign of impending disaster, that the current era is not subject to the seeming rules of the past. Gallup:

    Hillary Clinton Unique With No Post-Election Image Gain

    Over the past quarter century, the favorable ratings of losing presidential candidates generally have increased after the election – some in the immediate aftermath and others in the months that followed. With the exception of John Kerry, for whom there are no comparable data, losing presidential candidates since 1992 have experienced a boost of at least four percentage points in favorability when averaging their ratings from the day after the election through the following June. ...

    But for Clinton, this has not been the case. Seven months after her failed bid for the presidency, she remains as unpopular now as she was then.

    Yet she will not renounce a future race.

    All is unfolding as it should.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog..._to_crap_for_the_democrats.html#ixzz4lEwaozLU
     
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    Putin is replacing Kislyak with a Ukraine sanctioned ambassador..........Antonov. Mueller wants to talk to Kislyak. ;)
     
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    Doesn't this seem like years ago? We get a trump Russia story so often they are hard to keep track
     

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