Yet more lies + war mongering from the usual suspects..

Did you write that yourself?

The reason I ask is that it would be front page news to any newspaper, blog and/or wire service I've ever heard of. Not the fact, (psychiatrists have one of the higher suicide rates going) but the 'suicide note'. Yet this is the first I've ever heard of it.

But then, I DO forget they are all in on the GREAT CONSPIRACY themselves. Fascinating how they've gotten to ALL the governments and wire services in the whole world but missed this one blog.

Would it be too much to ask for just a little confirmation of such an earth-shaking story? Like, say, just one, or dare I even ask, for two links that say the same thing? And from credible sources not Volkescer Beobachter II

 

“Laypeople don’t realize the stress involved in treating ideology-induced psychosis,” observes Dr. Rafael Eilam, best-selling author of Zionist Lunacy On The Couch: The Perilous Quest For a Cure (Sanity Books, 2010).

 

Where do you ppl come up with this stuff....., you asked me before, now Ill ask you, do YOU belive in these stories ?

 

I find this recent speech by the new Iranian PM to be extremely hopeful.

However, it is tempered a little by the knowledge that both the US and Russia have offered to sell and supply Iran with totally functioning power nukes at discounts that Costco couldn't match.

Now, yes, Iran has a valid objection there in that it would make them dependent, but several other nations the world over have nuclear power plants that function under the same agreements and they've NEVER (AFAIK) been pressured. The IAEA supervises the whole thing, and they'd yell bloody blue murder if that ever happened, it's their main job, as I understand.

OTOH the argument that Iran has lots of oil it could burn is no good either. Iran has recognized that its oil is not infinite and has been trying to develop a petrochemical industry to replace it since the Shah was in power. That much is actually a very sanguine policy of long standing

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I can't speak for Israeli psychiatrists.. Did these guys commit suicide?

 

Thanks for that link - here's extract imo worth a C + P :

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we must recognize that the development of adequate energy resources is a highly important part of the national interests of every nation which, by their very definition, transcend the political system that governs a nation.

Both Democratic and Replublican administrations in the US, and their allies, such as Britain, have waged wars, invaded and occupied oil-producing countries, and engineered coups to overthrow the legal, often democratically-elected, governments of oil-producing countries in order to control the world's oil reserves.

They have always justified their deed solely based on protecting their national interests and national security. We only need to recall what happened in Iran in 1953, after Dr. Mohammad Mosaddegh nationalized Iran's oil industry, and the recent invasion and occupation of Iraq by the US and Britain, to understand this. The same principles are also applicable to Iran, namely, that she has a fundamental right for securing adequate energy resources - the engine for her development and advancement.

Iran's foray into nuclear research and development began in the mid 1960s under the auspices of the US within the framework of bilateral agreements between the two countries. The first significant nuclear facility built by the Shah was the Tehran Nuclear Research Center (TNRC), founded in 1967, housed at Tehran University, and run by Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI). This Center has always been one of Iran's primary open nuclear research facilities. It has a safeguarded 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor that was supplied by the US in 1967. The reactor can produce up to 600 grams of plutonium per year in its spent fuel.

Iran signed the NPT on July 1, 1968. After the Treaty was ratified by the Majles, it went into effect on March 5, 1970. In the language of Article IV of the Treaty, the NPT recognized Iran's "inalienable right to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful proposes without discrimination, and acquire equipment, materials, and scientific and technological information." The events of the early 1970s were, however, instrumental in shaping and accelerating the development of Iran's nuclear program. The 1973 war between the Arab countries and Israel, and the subsequent huge increase in the price of oil, provided the Shah's government with considerable resources for Iran's development. At that time, a study by the influential Stanford Research Institute concluded that Iran would need, by the year 1990, an electrical capacity of about 20,000-megawatt.

According to declassified confidential US Government documents posted on the Digital National Security Archive (see the article, "The US-Iran Nuclear Dispute: Dr Mohamed El Baradei's Mission Possible to Iran," by Drs. A. Etemad and N. Meshkati, published on July 13, 2003, in the Iran News), in the mid-1970s, the US encouraged Iran to expand her non-oil energy base, suggested to the Shah that Iran needed not one but SEVERAL nuclear reactors to acquire the electrical capacity that the Stanford Research Institute had proposed, and expressed interest in the US companies participating in Iran's nuclear energy projects. Building these reactors, and selling the weapons that the Shah was procuring from the US in the 1970s, were, of course, a good way for the US to recover the cost of the oil that she was buying from Iran.

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Since the Shah never read or heard an American proposal that he did not like, he started an ambitious program for building many (presumably as many as TWENTY THREE) nuclear reactors. Hence, his government awarded a contract to Kraftwerk Union (a subsidiary of Siemens) of (West) Germany to construct two Siemens 1,200-megawatt nuclear reactors at Bushehr. The work for doing so began in 1974. In 1975, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology signed a contract with the AEOI for providing training for the first cadre of Iranian nuclear engineers, and the Iranian-Indian nuclear cooperation treaty was also signed (India is now a nuclear power). In addition, the Nuclear Technology Center at Esfahan (Isfahan) was founded in the mid-1970s with the French assistance in order to provide training for the personnel that would be working with the Bushehr reactors
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"According to the same declassified document mentioned above, in an address to the symposium, "The US and Iran, An Increasing Partnership," held in October 1977, Mr. Sydney Sober, a representative of the US State Department, declared that the Shah's government was going to purchase EIGHT nuclear reactors from the US for generating electricity. On July 10, 1978, only seven months before the victory of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, the final draft of the US-Iran Nuclear Energy Agreement was signed. The agreement was supposed to facilitate cooperation in the field of nuclear energy and to govern the export and transfer of equipment and material to Iran's nuclear energy program. Iran was also to receive American technology and help in searching for uranium deposits. "
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Hmmmmmmm....



"No matter what political reasons are given for war, the underlying reason is always economic "
(A.J.P.Taylor)

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I never heard of them before I have no idea who are they or what they did,

I asked you if you belive that the "testimony"in Jack's report really came from a psych doc., what is described there is clock work orenge kind of lunacy, so do you think such a person can run a state, attend political meetings, make decisions, meet world leaders etc' ? cause from what I read in that "testimony" , such a person wouldnt be able to tie his own shoes...

 

Whatever.. I am sure I don't know anything about Israeli psychiatrists .. but I have always thought Netanyahu was crazy as a bed bug and detrimental to Israel. He's back in the US again running around telling anyone who will listen how afraid Israel is of Iran.

 

Really....you dont know if Bibi is a drolling psyco that bites everyone around him...., I dont belive you.

Its sad when ppl in this forum need to lie to make a point, so few speak at eye level on their real thoughts, I got nothing to hide and nothing to fear.

 

Bibi is rude and abrasive.. and often comes across as a cartoon character.

 

Try this :


Second Psychiatrist Suicide Rocks Israel

http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/second-psychiatrist-suicide-rocks-israel/


(wink)

 

Jews in Israel have been wittering on about Iran and nukes for 20yrs or so.

Every time they make one of their neurotic fantasia based 'prophecies', it turns out to be a lie. Then another lie, and another lie.

Conclusion? They lie a lot about Iran + nukes, and their word on this matter cannot be trusted AT ALL.

Meantime. Jews in Israel tell the rest of the World that their nukes are none of our business.

If it's not a crime to keep telling lies with a view to causing war, then it should be.

Period.

 

Iran has needed nuclear power to expand their electrical grid since the 1970s... under the Shah.. The program was a US one and called Atoms for Peace.

During the period when the Germans were building them, the US was training nuclear technicians.

 

For the love of god, PLEASE READ WHAT I WROTE.....

Post 28... "Yeah, rumour/myth, that's what I meant."

Post 21 ....

"There was a story doing the rounds years ago(perhaps you heard it), in which it was said his psychiatrist had committed suicide.

I don't think it was any more than a rumour though."

 

Iran doesnt need to convince Israel on anything, they need to convince IAEA, that's all. luckly THAT UN body is really after facts.

 

Name ONE leader of Israel that wasn't offensive, rude, abrasive, and didn't oversee an illegal occupation?

As to Netenyahu seeming like a 'cartoon character', well, he did have his highly advanced cartoon bomb and magic marker.

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What about Israel's nukes then?

Are we just to accept that they are some kind of chosen case?

 

‘Iranian threat to Israel fabricated by international war lobby’

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"The Israeli Prime Minister has visited the US to express his concern about the consequences of a historic phone call between Iran’s president, Hassan Rouhani, and his US counterpart, Barack Obama.

Benjamin Netanyahu said he came to Washington to "tell the truth in the face of the sweet-talk and onslaught of smiles," which is how he described the Iranian leader's recent speech at the UN.

But despite the rhetoric from the Israeli PM, author of “Myths, Lies and Oil Wars”, F. William Engdahl, believes that the reset in US-Iranian relations is real.


RT: Do you think there really has been a thaw between Iran and the US or is it just a way to ease public fears?


F. William Engdahl: I think there’s been a back channel between Iran and Washington, and the Obama administration to try to prepare the state for this. And after the election of [Iranian president Hassan] Rouhani, the way was clear with [Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad and his kind of populous rhetoric out of the way for a genuine dialogue between Washington and Tehran. All appearances point to that.


RT: Iranian president Rouhani has signaled that he'd like to resume flights between the US and Iran. Isn't it too early for steps like that?

FWE: I think that it’s not at all too early for steps like that. I think the point is to get the sanctions removed as rapidly as possible from Iran. I was in Tehran in February of this year and the sanctions are hurting the common Iranians. And this is a hawkish lobby in the [US] Congress that pushed this through earlier this year and later last year. And I think that has to be taken down as a first step towards bargaining in good faith on the nuclear issue.


RT: There's been a lot of speculation about Obama's strained relationship with Netanyahu. Is it bad enough to prevent the US from remaining Israel's international cheerleader?


FWE: I think there’s no question that the Obama administration – especially, in the second term – has dramatically distanced itself from this very-very tight relationship that’s been in place for decades since the time of president [Jimmy] Carter [who was in office in 1977-81] with Israel and Washington – the strong Israeli lobby, AIPAC, think tanks and lobby groups in and around Washington. And for that reason [Israeli prime minister Benjamin] Netanyahu made an unprecedented backing of [Republican presidential candidate in the 2012 election] Mitt Romney, including financial backing through Sheldon Adelson, his good friend and Vegas casino owner, to back the opposition to Obama because he felt that Obama was distracting from that ‘tail wag the dog’ relationship between Tel-Aviv and Washington. And that’s a major-major step.


RT: We spoke to one Israeli journalist who told us the majority of Israelis see Iran as a genuine threat. Do they have grounds to feel that way?

FWE: I don’t think so. Iran hasn’t waged an aggressive war on any nation for more than a century-and-a-half. And I certainly don’t think they’re insane enough to launch a war on Israel, which is armed to the teeth with nuclear submarines and other weaponry that would really not be to the advantage of Iran at all. I think this is a fabrication by a certain international war lobby in Washington, perhaps in Britain, France and certainly around the Israeli defense industry and certain circles in Israeli intelligence around Netanyahu that want to have Iran a boogeyman to justify the continued support of Washington to Israel.


( William Engdahl is an award-winning geopolitical analyst and strategic risk consultant )


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Well they do wage war against Israel throu their terror org in Gaza and Lebanon but I agree in spirit to the above,



They still dont get to develope Nukes thou....

 

It is because of Israel waging war on Palestine and Lebanon, that Hamas and Hezbollah exist.

 

Warmongering should be a crime.

Netenyahu is a war monger, only like the coward that he is, he wants someone else to do it.

He is a liar. Simple as that. A liar and a warmonger. Most likely a sociopath as well. Only the Jews he and his kind manage to fuel the neurosis of would even listen to that liar.

 

Nuclear power is cleaner and cheaper and since oil is the major source of foreign exchange, the less they use the more they have to sell.
It takes a specific type of reactor to make medical isotopes, not the kind used for energy production.
Refining their own uranium makes a lot of sense for all nuclear power nations. Its cheaper, and provides greater control over energy production.
Last time they tried to build a reactor, Israel bombed the crap out of it.

Well, I can think of one reason why they would insist on proceeding. The exact same reason that the US considers itself the policeman of the planet, gets its nose out of joint when simply diplomatic ettiquette is followed etc. I believe its called national pride (however merited or misplaced) and a perfectly reasonable desire for any sovereign nation to pursue their right of self determination.

I also do not know if the Iranians are actually building weapons. Given their fear of the "great satan" I would suspect that there are many on the supreme council that would demand a nuclear deterrent to protect "islam and the ummah". But it should be noted that the process of development is the same for both power generation and nuclear bomb material refinement (up to a point).

OTOH, I don't think that a nuclear armed Iran would be nearly as dangerous as the already nuclear armed Pakistan or those whacko North Koreans.

 

You also didn't call the "Israeli pukes", you merely implied it.
I am not surprised that making satirical fun of your virulent hatred flies over your head.

Ordinarily I would think that your response above was also satiric, but it seems you are all too serious.

 

Of course not. Has Israel threatened to nuke Iran?
As for Israel claiming that Iran would if they could, given Israel's history and the demogoguery of its enemies for the past 70 + years, a little paranoia is understandable.

does anyone have any evidence of this accusation? Like I said I believe bibi's demogoguery is simply tit for tat.
You have been listening to Iran for the past 30 plus years and some of their pronouncements are pretty over the top as well.

 

Let's not also ignore the fact that the Zionist entity called "Isra-hell" is the major cause of political unrest in the Levant, as a result of the influx/invasion of Europe's unwanted Jews, into that region. (wink)

 

Oh.

Then let me be clear.

Their constant lies do make me and sentient beings puke.

What of it?