Yet more lies + war mongering from the usual suspects..

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Yup.

So let's get back on our horse and bring it back to topic.

What do you think should happen to Netenyahu and the Likud Party for perpetual lies and warmongering?

Isn't it time that the EU and UN declared them a terrorist organisation and criminal enterprise?

 

Yes I suppose its tough for some to follow a train of thought, nor a direct response to another's post.

Wasn't me who declared they spoke for all sentient beings.

good blt.

 

What do you think should happen to Netenyahu and the Likud Party for perpetual lies and warmongering?

 

Considering Likud's roots i.e. LEHI/Irgun/Hagana/Stern Gang = Zionists terrorist groups, I don't see any reason why EU/UN should continue shying away from denouncing their criminal activities .

No point to expect any change from America, as its already firmly under Zionist control.

The United States is firmly under Zionist control.


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you already know my position on Likud and their desire for "eretz israel" and that I am no fan of bibi.

As for declaring Likud a terrorist organization and criminal organization, I suppose if you would also declare the US republicans and UK conservatives and Syrian baathists etc. etc. etc. of being terrorist organizations and criminal enterprises then we might have something to discuss.

But as usual you merely want to centre out a jewish political group for doing exactly the same things as dozens of other political groups around the world also indulge in.

I don't mind discussing principles when those principles are applied across the board, but when used exclusively to exocoriate and denigrate a single group, it becomes nothing more than mundane bigotry.

 

Netanyahu’s UN speech: Sounds like a sociopath?


Iranian missiles will hit New York in “three to four years”. A nuclear Iran is like “50 North Koreas”.

This could be the sound of a deranged, dangerous sociopath, or this could be the sound of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu addressing the UN General Assembly.


Compare for yourself. Last week we had Iranian President Hassan Rouhani calling for the world to surf a WAVE (as in World Against Violence and Extremism).


This week we had Bibi saying that was a “cynical” and “totally hypocritical honey trap”.


In the world according to Netanyahu, “Ahmadinejad was a wolf in wolf’s clothing. Rouhani is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.” Rouhani tried to present himself as “pious”, but he’s always been involved with “the terror state of Iran”. He’s like “a serial killer going to court dressed in clerical attire and giving testimony to his nature as an ‘ethical’ and ‘religious’ man.”


Ranting aside, Bibi did change his game. Now it’s not silly cartoons and begging the US to bomb Iran virtually on a weekly basis. Now it’s Iran’s “military nuclear program” that must be shut down – a program, by the way, that the alphabet soup of US intelligence agencies says does not exist.


And this after Netanyahu told US President Barack Obama to forget – forever - UN Security Council resolution 242, which determined total Israeli withdrawal from all lands occupied after the 1967 war.

What a bomb

So let’s get some things straight.

The state of Israel does not have any internationally recognized borders, and does not have an internationally recognized capital. It’s bound to be perpetually expanding.

Israel has disrespected no less than 69 UN Security Council resolutions and has been “protected” from no less than 29 more, courtesy of US vetoes.

It has been occupying sovereign territory of Lebanon and Syria without giving a damn to UN Security Council resolutions.

Israel signed the Oslo Accords promising to stop building for good, any new settlements in Palestine. Instead, it has built over 270 new settlements. This is part of the slow motion ethnic cleansing of Palestine over the past six decades.

Israel has been threatening to bomb Iran on a weekly basis for at least three decades.

Israel is an undeclared nuclear power with as many as 400 nuclear warheads; refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT); bars international inspections; never ratified the Chemical Weapon Convention Treaty; used chemical weapons on Gaza; and holds an undeclared stockpile of chemical weapons larger than any other nation in the Middle East.

Iran, on the other hand, has no nuclear warheads. Iran has signed the NPT and is inspected on a regular basis. Iran has not invaded another country for at least 250 years. Iraq under Saddam Hussein invaded Iran in 1980, but Iran did not occupy Iraqi territory.

The Israel lobby in Washington and the US Congress imposed a financial blockade on Iran, which for all practical purposes is a declaration of war. This has led to a massive depreciation of the Iranian rial – with drastic consequences for the lives of ordinary Iranians. Yet in his meeting with Obama this Monday in Washington, Netanyahu not only asked for more sanctions; he said Israel will unilaterally attack Iran if Rouhani’s words are not followed by “action”.

The real “international community”, as in the overwhelming majority of the developing world, including the BRICS group of emerging powers, have all these facts at their fingertips. These facts help to see right through Bibi’s game.

Just look at the map

The mere possibility of a US-Iran dialogue is the Israeli right’s real “existential threat”. Bibi won't accept even Iran’s right to enrich uranium for civilian purposes, accorded to it by the NPT.

A US deal with Iran is a win-win proposition for all; not only the two principals but energy-starved Europeans, the global economy, multinational corporations, you name it. Except for Israel.

Bibi’s nightmare is the Islamic Republic of Iran not only as an independent geopolitical actor in Southwest Asia – which it already is – but also as a thriving regional power; in this aspect, the only way for Iran is up, considering its huge, young, well-educated population, its massive energy resources, it's fabulous location and its complex ties to South, Central and East Asia.

For the Israeli right, the status quo is ideal. Either we find US puppets such as the petro-monarchies of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC); or Arab secular republics that – with various degrees of Israeli input – have been mired in extreme turmoil, like Iraq and especially Syria.

It’s very easy for Israel to maneuver among these actors; the Israelis can, for instance, rejoice with a military coup in Egypt (because the Egyptian military are no threat) while partnering with Saudi Arabia to try to bring down Assad in Syria. Middle East balkanization over sectarian lines is sweet as honey for Israel.

But Iran as an emerging economic/political power, with normalized relations with the US and Western Europe, it’s a much more serious matter, “existentially” threatening Israel’s supposed hegemony in the Middle East, which rests solely on its military muscle (not to mention hidden nuclear capability).

So much for Netanyahu ’s obsession with regime change in Tehran - or the next best option, which is total isolation from the West (because as far as the East is concerned, Iran has thriving relations with all key actors in Asia).

The crucial point is that Iran’s “existential threat” has been extremely useful for the Israeli right as a diversionary tactic, changing the subject from what’s happening in real life; a nuclear garrison state/settler colony literally, graphically wiping a whole people - the Palestinians - off the map. When in doubt, just look at the map.


So here’s where we are. Netanyahu is a hawk who swears by Eretz Israel – a “Greater” Israel with ever-expanding borders and undisputed military/nuclear hegemony in the Middle East. He has powerful allies; US extreme right-wingers and neo-cons, demented Republicans who will support anything as long as it’s against Obama, a great deal of the Israeli-manipulated US Congress, large swathes of corporate media. They will stop at nothing to derail even the hint of an agreement between Washington and Tehran.

The temptation for the real “international community” would be to tell Netanyahhu to shut up – and go play with his silly cartoons. Obama at the UN last week said his priorities are now Iran and taking another shot at solving the Israeli-Palestinian tragedy. So the ball is really in Obama’s court – not the sociopath’s.

http://rt.com/op-edge/netanyahu-un-nuclear-iran-633/


He sounds like a dangerous sociopath because he IS a dangerous sociopath.

However, apparently Israel are not a dictatorship, which means their electorate have responsibility for electing a sociopath.

Either way, he is a dangerous sociopath that lies and puts the World at risk.

Time that Israel were formally declared an illegal terrorist entity.

 

Then we have something to discuss.

Forget Likud for a second then.

What about our Labour Party?

They constitute a criminal enterprise, no doubt, imo.

Their leader LIED to most terrible of lies, with devastating consequences. Supported by his cabinet et all.

There was the expenses scam that they are the Tories were both involved in. In any other parlance that is organised criminal behaviours.

So you are spot on.

It is not just Likud.

It is Labour, Tories, Reps, Democrats, basically, it's all a criminal enterprise.

 

how about getting defeated in the next election.

 

well I can understand you not seeing any reason.

Interesting that you are totally prepared to criminalize a political organization because of its "roots" and perceived crimes of a few generations ago. Not a student of history I see.

No matter how many times you repeat the idiotic meme "zionists control the US" it will not make it true.
I find it rather amusing that rabid anti-zionists can't think of any other logical rationale for US support of Israel.
But I suppose the blinkers of hatred are impossible to overcome with logic, history, and actual geopolitical analysis.

 

Well, I would definitely hesitate to condemn a political party for being criminal because of the actions of a few of its members such as the expense scam. An abuse that is prevalent throught the politcal world and not really associated with any particular party its seems. (certain canadian senators being another example).

As for political leaders telling lies, I believe that history has shown that virtually every political leader has lied to their citizens at one time or another. This can be seen especially in times of war, governmental incompetence, political scandal/misdoings etc.

Wouldn't you agree that lying is inherent in the political process itself?

 

Okay who are the "pukes"? It is not clear to some of us. Are they democrats or the UN or France or Italy. We need clarity on "pukes".

 

How about posting something informative instead you usual blah - blah crap . ?


Why not tell us why you + anyone else should believe that United States Middle East policies are not controlled/heavily influenced by ZIONSTS . ?


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It's an even bigger joke than all the bruhaha over North Korea.

 

Marlowe - what have the World Jewish Congress had to say about Benny and his sociopathic lies and warmongering? 'Tis the leader of the Jewish state after all.

Or have the said nothing because they are too busy with their love holiday with Greek PM Samaras, to TALK ABOUT THE GOLDEN DAWN..

Who are, of course, a THREAT TO THE WORLD.

 

Netenyahu is a puke.

All Israeli PM's have been pukes.

And so called 'Zionism' is code for Jewish supremacism.

All those who support these people, Jew or non Jew, support a criminal enterprise.

 

Strange, Israel started claiming that Iran was working on nuclear capabilities in 2008. That is 5 years and Iran is working on nuclear capabilities today. Not a decade and not a different message. The world has approved sanctions on Iran because they will not open their facilities for inspections.

What are you tired about? Hearing the truth?

 

In the 1980s Khomeini gave a speech in which he said in Persian “Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.”

This means, “This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the arena of time.” But then anonymous wire service translators rendered Khomeini as saying that Israel “must be wiped off the face of the map,”

 

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God, the things that people believe. They are terrorist groups, period. They proclaim that they will eliminate Israel. Israel was set up by the UN. Arab countries have fought 3 wars to eliminate Israel. The result is that the Arabs gave Israel more territory. Israel gave back territory themselves to get treaties.

The terrorist groups have always wanted Israel eliminated. You can point to some specific thing but the terrorist groups did change their position over anything.

 

Warmongering should be a crime. The middle east are full of war mongers. Arabs have been lying about Israel since Isreal was set up. Liars and warmongers. Most likely sociopaths as well.

 

Same thing! The regime he's talking about is the Jewish regime. If it's institutions and laws are gone, Israel is gone and if it's gone, it will be another Muslim state. No difference!

 

The ideology .. not the people.

 

Look Iran is Israel's problem now, but a nuclear Iran would be a world problem since Israel is not Iran's only enemy. Saudi Arabia will insist on having nuclear arms as protection, and even worse, an irrational and aggressive Turkey will use it as an excuse to develop their own.

There is no way Russia will ever allow them to...

 

Yes, they are reasonable uses. And the sanctions would be lifted if they would let in the IAEA to inspect these facilities. Why would Iran not do that? Sanctions are hurting Iran. It just would make sense to open their facilities to inspections.

 

The ideology is a nations institutions and laws and Israel was established as a state for the Jewish people. Every people want the protection of their own borders, so why deny it to the Jews?