Erdogan threatens Europe with 3.6 million new refuges if they continue to criticize " Peace Spring"

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  1. Sobo

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    Wrong, birthplace of aryan in the caspian steppe
     
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    Nope.
     
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    yes. There are a lot of Americans who claim they did not know they were providing the money that allowed the IRA to get arms from Gaddafi to kill people not only in NI but also in mainland Britian!
    The 'troubles' did not start till 69. I have heard and from being alive this sounds much more likely, that the reason our Government did not send troops to Vietnam was because they believed that would result in civil war - that the British people would not stand for it. Having our tvs with reporters and film crews honestly reporting what was going on in Nam cost the US that war. Of course they learned and never let that happen again even shooting dead Independent Journalists and their teams to warn the others.
     
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    Buuuhhhhaaaaaaaaaa, West Germany wanted what, send soldiers to Nam ?

    Where did you get that bull crap from ?
     
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    I thought the trouble peaked in 69 with "Bloody Sunday."

    I remember CBS "60 Minutes" interviewing British soldiers who were complaining they would rather be in Vietnam fighting a real war killing commie gooks instead of dealing with the IRA.

     
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    The Vietnam War was just one proxy war of the Cold War.

    In 1963 after JFK's failed regime change military coups, America owned South Vietnam and became America's problem.

    The world watched, what would JFK do ?

    If SEATO fails, NATO will likely follow.

    Three weeks later while in Dallas Texas, JFK met the same fate as President Diem.

    The world watched, what will LBJ do ? If SEATO fails, NATO will likely follow.

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    https://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/JCWS_a_00472
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/1433086?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
     
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    When the German hospital ship would put to sea from DaNang, you knew Charley was going to attack the city with rockets that night.

    You would always see the German nurses at China Beach but they only associated with the American officers.

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    German hospital ship Helgoland moored at Da Nang, Vietnam, on 23 January 1970


     
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    The Helgoland was a civilian ship, chartered by the German Red Cross. It had no military personnel on board. The cost was covered by the West German Government No military personnel were treated on boar, only civilians.

    The West German constitution prohibited West German soldiers to participate in war actions outside West German borders It would have been impossible for West German military to be active in Vietnam. It was the West German constitution and not France which prohibited any military or official support for the US Police Action.
    Even if that would have been possible, considering the public dislike of the US Police Action in Vietnam any West German government would have committed political suicide just thinking about it, for a tenth of a second.
     
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    only for those that refuse to accept others religions or race, those are the evil people, regardless of race or religion

    I personally like America's diversity, I think religious freedom for all and racial equality is one of the things that makes us great - now that doesn't mean some of each race or religion do not like others not like them and cause problems
     
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    Well, thanks for leaving Canada off your SH list. Have you ever been to Peru or Bolivia?
     
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    Yes in 2017. Was in Lima, Paracas, Nazca, Arequipa, Cusco, Puno and then crossed into Bolivia and visited La Paz.

    I loved the nature, hated the people and cities.
     
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    Well, if you hate the people, they are probably going to hate you right back and you are going to feel unwelcome. I thought the people were wonderful though the main attraction for me were historical sites like Sacsayhuamen and environs. I didn't like Lima that much but I generally don't like big cities that much

    Cuzco is fantastic is it not?
     
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    West Germany wanted to send soldiers to Vietnam but France said no???
    I've never heard of that and it sounds like a completely absurd fantasy narrative.
    Why do people make up such nonsense? I'm willing to learn though if there are reliable sources.
     
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    I dont show when i dislike people. I did not like Cuzco. Lika actually was the worst. Its grey sky, grey desert. Why anyone would make this a capital is beyond me. We stayed at a hotel in Miraflores.


    I did like Olantaytambo and the rainforest
     
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    Did not know that Croatia is in South America, but than ………….
     
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    Lol, so Erdogan threw Trump's letter in the trash but has agreed for a 5-day cease in the offensive to allow Kurds to evacuate.

    Meanwhile, the National Post (not the most reliable but still mainstream legacy media) is reporting that Turkey wants to create a "safe-zone" for refugees in Syria. Actually this may not be a bad idea if Turkey actually follows through with international cooperation and does not continue it's ethnic cleansing of Kurds in the territories they control.

    https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-p...establish-12-posts-in-syria-safe-zone-erdogan
     
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    His safe zone means ethnocide on th kurds. Hunting them out and settle arabs there.
     
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    Not anymore.
    Come at dusk and the city looks like zombyland.
     
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    Ye ye ye...
    Dautchland uber ales.
    We know how it ended last time.
    Most Germans have one grandmother who was raped by the Russian and one who gave herself to the American for some bread, while the grandfathers died by the generals of the great leader.
     
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    yup......at least if past history is any indication. Another sad chapter in the ME.

    At any rate, the US has lost all influence in Syria and the Russians, Iranians, Syrians and Turks will fight it out for what is left.
     
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    Turkey doesn't stand a change against Iran and Russia. In the end,... Turkey has no legal rights to be in Syria, while Iran and Russia do, because Assad approves it... and he is still the international recognized leader of that nation, like it or not. And Iran and Russia know how to crack eggs, while the Kurds are siding with Assad against Turkey.
     
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    You talk rubbish.

    1. What is Dautchland? You cant even write.

    2. How did it end? Germany became the economic hegemon of europe. Guess nobody expected that in 1945

    3. lol what utter nonsense. But fits to a pathetic person.
     
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    Come 2020, this shouldn't be UK's problem and UK shouldn't pay Turkey anymore money to hold refugees from getting into Europe.
    UK needs a clean break Brexit where UK doesn't have to do what the EU does.
     
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    The EU, with Merkle leading the cause, will gladly accept a couple million more (regardless of its peoples' sentiments).

    Perhaps one of the reasons for Brexit.
     
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    You plan a continental rift? I have news for you. UK will still be Europe in 2020. It will still be your problem. This is your continent. Our security is your security.
     

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