Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' movie assistant director admits to gun-safety mistakes, search warrant reveals

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  1. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    I see that honesty is not your forte. Maybe it was sasquatch, witchcraft, ghosts, or Martians. You need to broaden your perspective beyond your mundane fixations, and shoot for the stars. Oh but don't forget to first check your weapon in the creation of your fantasy. You might hurt somebody.
     
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    Not neccesarily.

    Where did you come up with that misinformation?:bored:

    Will Alec Baldwin be criminally charged?
    Though Baldwin fired the gun resulting in Hutchins' death and Souza's injury, it's unlikely the "30 Rock" alum will face criminal charges, especially if he didn't know the firearm contained live ammunition, says Neama Rahmani, a former federal prosecutor who co-founded the Los Angeles personal injury firm West Coast Trial Lawyers.

    Will anyone be criminally charged?
    There are criminal issues outside of who discharged the weapon, Rahmani says.

    According to an affidavit obtained by USA TODAY, several crew members handled the firearm before it was handed to Baldwin and deemed a "cold gun," or a weapon without live ammo that was safe to use.

    "Assuming it was just incompetence or a colossal mistake, that rises to the level of criminal negligence, which would be sufficient for a manslaughter prosecution," Rahmani says. He added that if charges are brought, the person who loaded the gun could be prosecuted, as well as anyone who knew the gun contained live ammo


    You're Welcome.
     
  3. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    That's not how discharging a firearm works
     
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    I mean or you could just take standard precautions and have an armorer that knows what the **** they're doing and require the actors to simply check the ****ing pipe before they go play.
    This occurred because 1) baldwin cheaped out on the armorer and she obviously doesn't know a ****ing thing about her very dangerous job 2) the AD didn't check the gun properly they just dragged it off the table trusting someone else had and 3) baldwin didn't check the weapon himself and notice the issue.
     
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    Isn't it amazing how the obsession, preoccupation, phobia, compulsion, infatuation and delusion the anti Trumpers have these days.

    An anti Trumper, snuck on the set, was able to find the exact weapon Baldwin would use, so they had a copy of the script, in the middle of the desert, without detection, to get a locked up weapon from a locker, load real ammo, knowing the weapon would never be checked, to setup Baldwin to kill someone, because of his SNL skits.

    If that doesn't fall under the scope of delusional, what does?
     
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    I don't hate the man if that is what you're asking, he is just an actor, like Trump, would not want Baldwin as President either
     
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    I was honest, seems your being dishonest
     
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    sure it is, this was a prop in a professional setting with people hired to make sure these guns were safe and unloaded

    there is no reason anyone had reason to believe they were not
     
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    Which means you have never been trained in the use of firearms.
    Nobody with any firearms training would accept that any weapon is unloaded unless they check themselves.
    No matter who claims its empty.
    Not to mention you don't know the difference between a prop and a real gun. How do you kill someone with a prop?
    If it fires real ammunition, its no longer a prop.
     
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    LOL holy ****. That's some deep bedded issues right there. Trump isn't even in office any more ffs. He holds no power to the direction of this country and yet that's all this guy is focused on?

    Trust me. When Biden is either dead or out of office or both, I could give TWO SHITS about him or his administration.
     
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    it wasn't unloaded, it was loaded with blanks, or supposed to be, someone put one live round in there, the rest were blanks

    sounds like someone trying to sabotage the movie, who would hate Baldwin enough to do that?
     
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  12. Condor060

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    Yeah, amazing isn't it. That anyone could actually be that preoccupied with Trump. That is the absolute definition of cultist behavior.
    The obsession is clinical. Never seen anything like it to date.
     
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    Still don't get it. I was using an extreme example. If the weapon is loaded with blanks, and you are about to shoot it at someone, you would look in the chamber to verify they are only blanks. ESPECUALLY being handed a real firearm that they were using earlier shooting live ammo at targets.

    Then you can add in that just 5 days before they had two live ammo fire incidents on set. This is the definition of extreme negligence of both parts. Baldwin and the safety officer.

    Right, we all heard you idea how an anti Trumper, snuck on the set, was able to find the exact weapon Baldwin would use, so they had a copy of the script, in the middle of the desert, without detection, to get a locked up weapon from a locker, load real ammo, knowing the weapon would never be checked, to setup Baldwin to kill someone, because of his SNL skits.

    Delusional, at best
     
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    Would it be fair to comment you attacked Baldwin?
     
  16. Robert

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    You simply do not want the gun old 6 shooter Baldwin used on his own production to remotely sound like a gun for some odd reason. Because he gunned down a woman.
     
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    My god, and I bet you think nobody said Trump either as if he was on the set gunning down a woman.
     
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    I am neutral, and I feel the case should be fully investigated.

    If after that investigation is complete, I would have no problem with any decision the DA makes in regards to Baldwin's case.
     
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    How long did it take you to clear the cop that killed Ashli Babbitt?
     
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    Huh?

    Another post that makes NO sense.

    What about Trump?

    In any event, NONE of those Trump posts "Defended" Baldwin, or called him a "Victim".

    Thus, you are Still WRONG!
     
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    Cool beans. I believe that Baldwin as a producer is in charge. And the dead woman's husband is likely to sue Baldwin. And I won't be shocked if the Sheriff arrests Baldwin.
     
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    Just as I predicted.
     
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    Which is, again, not how liability with firearms works. If you shoot someone it is 100% your fault. Even if you shoot another person in a 100% justified context and the bullet overpenetrates into someone you were not justified in hitting.

    When you're talking a theatre prop that is a real live round firing gun loaded with special cartridges, which everyone knows is what "COLD GUN" means (ie a real gun loaded with blanks rather than live rounds which would be called a "HOT GUN") you are obligated to check the chamber yourself before you play with it. Yes even if there is an armorer, yes even if a flunky hands you the gun and says its unloaded. You check and clear it yourself, because if you don't and you shoot someone its negligent homicide at minimum.
     
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    Repeating the same argument doesn't make it valid. Gun safety exists for a reason. One fundamental rule is you check to see if a gun is loaded when you are going to handle it regardless of what another person says.

    You are arguing that this fundamental rule should be ignored.

    This is a ridiculous position to take because this very story proves why it can't be ignored.

    Had Baldwin followed this very basic rule of gun safety a mother would still be alive.

    You are dead wrong here. In no scenario should gun safety be ignored.
     
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