As Much As I Despised The Last President, I Always Stood For My Country's Flag

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    At the expense of ignoring Puerto Rico.. The man is an idiot and so petty. No he's going to change healthcare by executive order and he knows absolutely NOTHING about healthcare.
     
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    These are leftist Marxist anarchist fascist.

    Even the DNC has problems keeping them under control.
     
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    There are very few individuals who actually know how healthcare works.
     
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    Hospital CEOs usually know......
     
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    Do you even know what those words mean?
     
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    Were they consulted in the drafting of the affordable care act?
     
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    Do you even know what those words mean?
     
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    It is not the right wingers out there hating on cities, burning , assaulting and destroying. They are too busy working.
     
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    Do you even know what those words mean?
     
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    Antifa sure doesn't.


     
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    You only have to ask me once.
     
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    Yes, as a mature adult you do get to choose how you define yourself given the cards you've been dealt. Nobody has control over their own conception or birth or early developmental upbringing. These are just a few of those things I describe as "accidents of birth". Since EVERY HUMAN ON THE PLANET SUFFERS THESE SAME ACCIDENTS OF BIRTH, so I find it rather repugnant when they are used by the fearful and insecure to exclude, deny, reject, others based on wholly on them. Hence my bigotry against bigots.



    Yep, gotta hand it to Twitler. he sure is some rocket surgeon.
     
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    But you could chose not to, according to you.

    You could decide to view the fearful and insecure as the brave and forthright.

    You have just been programmed by your environment to "choose" to hate bigots. It is only the brave and independent that open their eyes and realize what BS political correctness is.
     
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    I suppose one could choose not to define oneself in which case they would merely be drones. Happy in their bigoted ignorance and still fit my criteria for my own prejudice, in which case I would NEVER decide to view them as brave and forthright.

    Don't pretend you don't know how bigotry works.
     
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    Of what am I supposed to be ignorant?

    I actually consider myself rather tolerant. More so than you in fact. Tolerance is simply putting up gracefully with stuff you don't like.

    Are we talking about a moral choice (bigoted) or an intellectual choice (ignorance)?

    I could no more believe in racial equality than I could believe the earth was flat. The hypothesis of racial equality is belied daily.
     
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    I view most forms of bigotry to be based on ignorance. Moral choices are just as easily based on ignorance and intellectual choices can.

    As for racial equality, its been documented how racially inferior white men feel when their penises are compared to black men. Is that the kind of racial inequality you believe in?
     
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  17. Pycckia

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    OK, but what am I supposed to be ignorant of?

    You are not suggesting I base my moral judgement on penis lengths, are you?

    I am basing my judgement on intellectual, cultural and scientific accomplishments. These are what I value in a society, not penis lengths.

    What do you value?
     
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    Going by the racist myth of intellectual, cultural and scientific accomplishments, there are many "white" nations in Europe that are practically worthless.
     
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    Two things.

    First of all, no one is kneeling because of Trump, at least, no one was at first until he interjected himself into the debate to try and change it into something it wasn't about. Namely, being about patriotism as opposed to being about racial injustice that occurs occasional in America's police force.

    Secondly, I don't care. If this guy stood for the flag or not during Obama's time means nothing. He could have done whatever he wanted for whatever reason.
     
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    Which ones? Any that are outstripped by "black" nations? I don't think so.
     
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    What have Balkan nations accomplished, on the whole?
     
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    I don't know what you are "supposed" to be ignorant of.



    What is a metaphor?

    Yes I am aware you cherry pick the criteria for your racialist measuring stick.
    Either deliberately or through true ignorance you attribute any and all disparities in certain comparative outcomes solely to "race".

    This methodology of yours is SCIENTIFICALLY and intellectually flawed because it does not consider any other factors that impact those very results to varying degrees (some way more significantly than others).

    Top line I value the same things you do, it's when one goes to the supporting detail that we find our major differences.
     
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  23. Pycckia

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    Immanuel Kant was a Lithuanian.
     
  24. Durandal

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    You can find great individuals from every place on Earth. That's hardly the point.
     
  25. Pycckia

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    You suppose me ignorant, what do you suppose me to be ignorant of.

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    Right, I am familiar with all your alibis for Black underachievement every and at all times. Me, I prefer Occam's razor.
     

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