Aurora workplace shooter was set to be fired by company, police chief says

I don't give a damn if the shooter was black,white ,purple or green it is too damn easy for people to obtain guns and ammunition resulting in us having WAR ZONE death rates day in and day out in our country.WE NEED REAL GUN CONTROL NOT BS!!!!

 

I would have if I had seen the one that was started. It didn't appear on the first page of current events so I posted. I know I could have tried the search function but I find it not to be very reliable. This is the only forum of this size I know of where mods don't regularly merge and or delete duplicate threads. I suppose it may be more democratic that way in some respects.

 

Because the shooter is black.

Period.

Edit To Add: Not "period".

Besides being black, the shooter belonged to the democrat Party.

Now, Period.

 

C'mon Folks.Aren't you just about fed up with this kind of take from a
pathetically dominant Lying Mainstream media over these shootings.
So a guy would rather be shot dead { which would hurt } instead of
being handed a pink slip.
This is now how a Corrupted and nefarious DEEP STATE Government
makes for a New News Cycle.Just create the most In Yer Face example
of Gun Violence.I don't but it.It doesn't make sense.
What does make sense,however is how our Government can and will
pull out all the stops in order to create a News cycle.Almost always
in some way,shape of form,in complementing a Democrat narrative.
We the People are no longer interested in how Fake News operates.
Just that is does.And by Extension ... False Flag Government ops.

 

We are learning more about how a Black Actor MAY have
pulled a stunt in order to demonize MAGA supporters.
Jussie Smollet from the - Empire - series.

 

You mean FOID cards like they issue in IL don't work?
You do know that this shooter was a known felon with 6 priors and that his carry permit had been revoked, right?
At least he bought the gun instead of using a stolen one.
If the company's HR dept. had only had a policy of not hiring felons with a history of domestic violence the people he murdered would probably still be around... and the cops he shot wouldn't be applying for disability.

 

Interesting take. I agree with your sentiments regarding MSM bias.

 

Illinois is not in the top twenty states for firearms deaths per 100,000 citizens of population those states are pretty much all bright RED STATES.

 

When this shooting broke yesterday,I was concerned as to how
serious.If more than 2 dead that meant that Fox news would be
forced to cover it.In fact,maybe dedicate an entire evening to it's
coverage.But Fox decided not to.They also made the decision the
last time a Shooter incident happened.I think Maybe - Tucker -
has something to do with it.Tucker Carlson has about the best
nose in the business.He ought to.He knows when a News Cycle is
being manipulated.But unlike Alex Jones,Tucker isn't about to go hog
crazy over.But going Hog Crazy over is important.It's all in the take.
Frankly I don't buy into a lot of these apparent False flag news cycles.
They are too obvious.They rarely add-up or make sense.
Senseless acts that we are forced to hear about and then
be lectured about.Again ... Always with a leftist Liberal take.
I mean,IF our Government could make it any more available to
create a way to play politics ... could they.? Would they.
Yer damn straight.
Which is why we are right now facing THE Biggest Conspiracy in
American History.The Framing and coup attempt on a duly
elected President.The MSM and Press are not going to have that take.
Meaning they are just as guilty.They are enablers.

 

The numbers have been dropping in Chicago sinceTrump was elected. By Oct. of 2017 2,958 had been shot with 572 dead. In 2016, 3,347 were reported shot and 586 dead.

Sorry I don't have numbers for the entire state. A few other cities in IL are also pretty rough, like East St. Louis so the murder totals for the state will be a little higher.

Funny though, getting shot is not like what you see on TV. Some guys, usually gang members can take up to 5 rounds and still not be killed if no vitals are hit. Heck, a lot of them don't even report getting shot if they have warrants out on them.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...er-the-weekend-in-chicago-20171009-story.html

 

Murder is illegal (check)
Previous Felon he could not possess a firearm legally ( check)..

Laws broken

Your response..

WE NEED MORE LAWS!!! FEELINGS!

 

Clearly either Illinois or Mississippi screwed up here.

And I bet 2A nuts have the rules set up to prevent the police from searching for guns once they revoked his permit. Gun registration would have gone a long way.

 

Having a revoked IL carry permit does not preclude law abiding citizens from owning a handgun or rifle. Federal law does prohibit known felons and persons convicted of domestic violence offences from owning or possession of firearms. It is the responsibility of the (POC) Point of contact authority, in this case the IL state police to enter and update information into the FBI's criminal data base the NICS.

Even if the Information regarding this persons revoked FOIA and carry permit had been submitted to NICS, It is not standard practice in any state to confiscate weapons or even chase down persons with outstanding warrants. They just don't have the time or money in most states.

 

Three day waiting period is not long enough to do any serious background checks

 

Unlike the UK the US Constitution affords it's citizens certain inalienable Rights. It is broadly know as Freedom in the US.
Federal Firearms Regulations, specifically 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44 and 27 CFR Part 478 like the Constitution itself can be thought of as a framework. While Federal gun laws are specific, what is not specifically codified by Federal law, States may enact additional requirements that may be more specific and often more stringent than Federal Law.

The trend however is for states to enact less regulation, not more. 14 states have adopted permit-less carry, sometimes known as Constitutional carry whereby there is no training requirement, no waiting period or even a permit in order to own and possess firearms. Felons and those convicted of Domestic Violence misdemeanor offences are not permitted to own or possess firearms or ammunition.
In this country it is a Right, not a privilege to keep and bear arms that Shall not be infringed.

 

The state of Illinois forgot to take his guns away.

 

Look you, wholly unaware of the gun laws in Illinois - both ownership and purchase of firearms require a permit; the state knew he owned guns.
Why did this shooting happen? The state failed to do its job.

 

Unsupportable nonsense.
Never mind the fact a right delayed is a right denied.

 

it didnt fit their socialist narative...

 

This story died quickly.

 

Well, shooter wasn't white, didn't use an AR, state/feds screwed up. Not surprised.

 

How long would you recommend?

 

"Mass shooting committed by a black dude.

Boring.

Prayers for the victims.

Next."

- The media.

 

Actually Illinois didn't know he had a gun. Any record of a background check when he purchased one would have been destroyed after 3 days by federal law.

Illinois either didn't manage to conduct the background check multiple times, or (more likely) Mississippi didn't enter the felony in NICS. It was only when his fingerprint was used on a broader background check that the Mississippi felony was discovered. At that point they have no record of any gun being purchased, although the chances had to be high given that he got the permit. Probably didn't have probable cause for a warrant and could only send him letters legally.

 

- Martin was convicted in 1995 in Mississippi of felony aggravated assault.
- In January 2014, Martin, then living in Aurora, was issued a firearm owner's identification card, or FOID card.
- On March 6, 2014, he applied to buy a .40-caliber Smith & Wesson handgun from a gun dealer in Aurora.
- Five days later, he took possession of the gun, having passed a background check and a five-day waiting period.
- State police sent him a letter telling him to voluntarily relinquish the weapon to police.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/us/illinois-aurora-shooting/index.html

The state knew he owned guns.

Why did this shooting happen? The state failed to do its job.