Dems, DACA and fake news

Well the elephant in the room or the 64 dollar question is "What is the consequences" if you "DO NOT" profess the Roman Catholic apostolic religion? Seems to me is pretty clear what's going to happen if you don't

 

Wow, you are in serious need of a history lesson You really haven't a clue of Mexico's history or even who it's indigenous people were, or a recollection of what you have posted

 

All of which means the immigrants must profess Roman Catholicism, which is (hint) is Roman Catholic Church, not Protestantism.

Keep it up, please.

 

Religion in Early Texas | Texas Almanac
https://texasalmanac.com/topics/history/religion-early-texasSince Roman Catholicism was the state religion for Spain and its colonies, Spain stipulated Catholicism as the state religion when Texas was opened to Anglo- American immigration in 1820. All newcomers were required to embrace it, and other religions were prohibited. Religious-civil rites, such as marriage, were not ...

 

Unlike its predecessor, the Mexican law required immigrants to practice Catholicism and stressed that foreigners needed to learn Spanish.[17]Settlers were supposed to own property or have a craft or useful profession, and all people wishing to live in Texas were expected to report to the nearest Mexican authority for permission to settle. The rules were widely disregarded and many families became squatters.[18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Texas#cite_note-vazquez50-17

 

What compromise are you talking about? The Democrats walked away when they recognized it wouldn't be their way.

I'm amazed at the level of perfidy the other side will reach to - the hypotheticals and the innuendoos and not one wit of proof supporting any of their hyperbole.
The wall will be built and there's not one wit any of these naysayers have that can change anything Trump wants to do.

 

No, I remember what I said and wrote. You have highlighted them in your post. If you want to hang your hat your Aztec/Spain BS, knock yourself out but it has nothing to do with the fact that most Mexican illegals have migrated back to land that was theirs a short time ago.
Your point is an exercise is logic that makes sense only to you.

 

Nothing actually happened. The only thing that Mexican Texas didn't allow was for other religious preachers to preach within the territory (although other religious preachers did preach and have actual congregations in Texas at the time). This from Jakes provided link:

 

What they didn't have to do was join the Catholic Church like you claimed, simply professing a religious belief (Christianity) doesn't mean professing the Roman Catholic Church.

 

Under the "Law of Nations" or Principals of the Law of Nature, neither Spain or Mexico ever had legal sovereignty over what is California or the American Southwest except along the Rio Grande River as far north as Santa Fe, New Mexico.

http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/Lieber_Collection/pdf/DeVattel_LawOfNations.pdf

 

After the Colonization Laws (1824) it all changed. Lets continue with your links own words:

How could Protestants, Baptists and Presbyterians all have churches within Texas during that time? Even in 1834 Mexico granted the first Baptist Church to be organized.

You see, when you pick and choose phrases in an attempt to look more intelligent then you actually are, you end up making yourself look the fool. SMFH

 

Mexico couldn't get them to move to the territories, less than 8000 lived in the territories at the time, and of those 8000, they were all turned into US Citizens. Your migration back to home lands claim is ridiculous to say the least.

 

Nothing to do with Mexicans, right

 

That's what "profess" means, my friend. Yes, they had to join the faith of Rome. Tough, but your argument is wrong.

 

And the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo did what?

 

First Baptist Church Organized The Providence Church in Bastrop County in 1834 was the first Baptist church organized in Texas, and Moses Gage, who served the church, was the first man licensed to preach in the territory.

An excellent example of the law breaking Americans in Catholic Mexican Texas. They were supposed to become Mexicans, disavow allegiance to the US, and become members of the Roman Catholic Church. I have documented this.

What we have is one person in rebuttal who gives truncated information and then his own opinion as fact: nope, does not work.

 

What year was that, friend? Twelve years after the Alamo?

 

Ok, so they were turned into US Citizens when the area became part of the US. Could you explain to Butterballs that in 1821 the people in Mexico became Mexicans in 1821 when they won their independence from Spain.
The migration statement isn't "migration" in the literal sense. The point being made is the area of the US that has a "problem" with "illegals" from Mexico was part of Mexico and it's heritage far longer than it's heritage with the US.

 

What difference does that make?

 

Yes, that is true. Those of Mexican ancestry born on either side of the Rio Grande see it as highway not a barrier between two countries.

They were Spanish in 1820, Mexicans in 1821, Americans in 1848, and that means nothing in terms of geography and homeland along either side of the river.

 

It wrote off Mexico's debt owed to the United States, established America's sovereign border with Mexico and became the lawful deed to the American Southwest and California.

You could say it was the final chapter of America's Manifest Destiny.

 

They only had to profess Christianity, they didn't have to join any church like you claimed they had to. Maybe you should quit moving your goal post.

 

You keep thinking that.

 

That area was only Mexican for a short period of time and had less than 9000 Mexicans living in the entire area, mostly along the Rio Grand River. It's been part of the US (169 years) much, much longer than it having been part of Mexico (27 years). The southwest heritage is more First Peoples than anything.

 

None of that matters, shortbox63. The peoples' ancestors had been in the area of the Rio Grande for two hundred years before the land between the Nueces and the Rio Grande officially became part of the US in 1845 and ratified by the Treaty of 1848.