Difference between Trump and Obama

i told you to look up clintons response. which you did not. Therefore your new stance is democrats do not agree with her on the aca. Which is ur prob

 

What in the world are you talking about? Under the free market, the system was and is killing us. They really did have death panels and you pay $10 for a paper cup. This is part of what drove the desire for reform in the first place.

Do you want your life to depend on the profit margin?

I was in health care for 7 years and my family for over 30 years. Health care has been in disaster mode ever the 80s when MBAs took over the hospitals.

 

Trump said he gives up. His words. He can't get his way in 30 days so he is taking his toys and going home. What a big baby.

Obamacare was a huge undertaking. That it needs tweaking and changes is no surprise. It is expected. But the Republicans would rather allow a disaster. If the Republicans wanted to help the country instead of defeating the Democrats, they would fix it. But they can't even agree on their own plan when they have total control!

Maybe they are just incapable of making the tough decisions. All talk just like the blowhard bigmouth in the WH - you know, the big negotiator who can't win even with loaded dice!

 

No you did not prove me wrong..VA is not single payer, it is socialized medicine, those articles are partisan propaganda aimed at misleading.

"
What Is A Single Payer?


A single payer refers to a system in which one entity (usually the government) pays all the medical bills for a specific population. And usually (though, again, not always) that entity sets the prices for medical procedures.


A single-payer system is not the same thing as socialized medicine. In a truly socialized medicine system, the government not only pays the bills but also owns the health care facilities and employs the professionals who work there.


The Veterans Health Administration is an example of a socialized health system run by the government. The VA owns the hospitals and clinics and pays the doctors, nurses and other health providers.


Medicare, on the other hand, is a single-payer system in which the federal government pays the bills for those who qualify, but hospitals and other providers remain private."

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ngle-payer-health-care-but-what-is-it-exactly

If anything we can appoint a separate agency privately owned to be our single payer, just with government oversight.
that is not socialism.

 

You want to lower cost of health care? Eliminate insurance and streamline regulations.
Costs will come down dramatically or you will see a lot of doctors working fast food.

I can see the value in some sort of policy for major medical. Major med used to be what insurance was for until the insurance companies got into the provider business

 

so the solution is to make it more beaurocratic at the point of service instead of regulating costs nationally? And that will make it affordable? Saddling insurance companies with processing fees- that drives costs down? Make it affordable and this wont be a problem. Im not arguing for no regulation, but more- and get rid of the mandate.

 

I'm sorry. I asked a question and you're responding to it with yet another question. Let us try this again. You're suggesting government paid for health insurance. Are you going to raise taxes? Premiums concerning single payer...is a tax so no need to be redundant. Are you going to raise taxes? How are you going to pay for this massive entitlement?

 

Your bogus assumption on how you could exploit Single Payer was so puerile as to be ludicrous. Single Payer sets the rates for service reimbursement and unless you can set yourself up as a phony service provider you would not be able to exploit the system. Even then you would be subject to audit and be exposed sooner or later.

Learn about Single Payer before you make baseless assumptions and ludicrous allegations.

 

Inane strawman and moving the goalposts is just another deflection and a failure to abide by the rules of debate on your part.

 

The biggest difference between Trump and Obama is that Trump gets Islam and is honest about Islam ("Islam hates us", he said) and wants to protect us from Islam - but Obama always always always tried to run interference for the atrocities committed in the name of Islam. Obama was born a Muslim, his father was a Muslim, he was raised in a Muslim-majority country, and went to a Muslim school.

 

Raising taxes would still be lower than what people are currently paying in premiums to the greedy insurance companies. Do the math for yourself by replacing the 20% private insurance overhead with a 2% Single Payer overhead.

 

There's a bit of hanky panky going on here in regards to timing.
Obama was not consumed with HealthCare reform till about 6 months into his
First term.Unlike Trump who took instant action on HealthCare Reform.
Obama's first act was to bilk the American people for $ 780 then $ 860 Billion
in his " Urgent " Stimulus bill.Which was Not Debated or Posted Online with a
grace period of 5 days before signing.Pelosi pulled a middle of the night
sneak { early Saturday morning vote } in order to get her House to pass.
There was no Regular order involved.
Plus the infamous use of Reconcilliation by Harry Reid to pass
ObamaCare which in regular order is supposed to be Passed in the House
first THEN the Senate.So the difference,ADAIN is Manifest.
The Democrats Lie then claim " Urgency " then bypass regular
order to pass their stinkin' Unpartisan bills.
That's the Difference between Obama { Titular sneak } and
Trump { Man of Action} for We the People.

 

No, Obama did NOT try to "destroy the country"!! He simply wanted us to eventually live under his god's Sharia Law (seems reasonable, if one is a Muslim), so he tried to weaken our country to that Sharia Law would be able to expand in the world more unimpeded. He was a very successful president by that metric.

 

Is clinton no longer a democrat now? She doesnt pass your arbitrary sniff test?

 

the system was corrupted far before aca. And the solution was to introduce MORE beaurocracy? Dont you see this is not about insurance? Its cost of services industry wide are outrageous.

 

Like pulling teeth. Whether taxes would still being lower than premiums or not.....whether or not replacing the 20% private insurance overhead with a 2% SP 'overhead'....let's try again for now the 3rd time. You are awfully informative about the SP plan.....how....exactly now.....do you intend to pay for this? An increase in income tax, a payroll tax, how are you going to pay for this grand f'n plan of yours?

See the ? there......that is a question mark. Can you please answer it with something intelligent and something that's not another question?

 

You make great points here, allow me to add the Onamacare bill was passed on Christmas Eve late into the night. When no one save for Rudolph is even paying attention and that's only if there is no storm.

 

Yeah SINGLE PAYER Like what MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell
preached is what this country desperately needs.
Goes on vacation with his brother in the British Virgin Islands
and gets seriously injured in a cab accident.
Get's Taken care of Immediately with better medical care than Royalty.

 

Why are you set on Repubacare when you have OBarrycared, I'm confused. Few years ago and a bunch more subsidies it was the bestest thing in the whole wide world?

 

Your strawman deflection is ignored!

 

The greedy HMO's were responsible for corrupting the system and driving up the prices when they "promised" that they would "reduce costs".

Medical services were forced to increase prices because the greedy HMO's were keeping up to 30 cents out of every dollar for themselves and shortchanging the medical service providers and in many cases stiffing them out of payments because of "coding errors".

Exclude the greedy HMO's and replace them with Single Payer and that eliminates the single biggest problem with healthcare.

But don't let the facts stop you from believing the extremist alt right disinformation about healthcare.

 

Which part of the term "Raising taxes" do I need to explain?

What does it matter which tax is raised to pay for SP as long as the amount necessary is collected?

 

its been confirmed everybody, clinton is no longer a democrat.