Federal Judge In Sentencing General Flynn Drops Bombshell On FBI!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by federalist50, Dec 15, 2018.

  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
  2. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I see what you are saying. Its the prosecution that are the criminals and all these investigations are an abuse of power by trump's own justice department.

    [​IMG]

    Shut down the Justice Department. They are all criminals criminally trying to make trump and his cronies criminals by investigating and indicting them and then trying them and then sentencing them. Its a giant criminal conspiracy and Trump the Just is the target!

    Go get em.
     
  3. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So? I guess criminals never lie and FBI agents are infallible lie detectors. Never believed a lie to your face before? Of course you have, you support trump.
     
  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,726
    Likes Received:
    26,786
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    :roflol:
     
  5. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2017
    Messages:
    5,151
    Likes Received:
    4,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And you, with your 2500 dollars burning a hole in your pocket.. Trump simply replaced two criminal franchises, be it the Obama Cabal or the Clinton Cartel.
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2018
  6. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2017
    Messages:
    5,151
    Likes Received:
    4,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Come Tuesday, we will see if Judge Sullivan is honest or just another part of the problem.
     
  7. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No miranda required.

    And trump was warned about Flynn being a problematic pick by numerous people, including Yates and Obama.

    Remind us all again, why was Flynn fired by Trump?
     
  8. TexMexChef

    TexMexChef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,333
    Likes Received:
    503
    Trophy Points:
    83
    The "unmasking" has nothing to do with Flynn being caught up in the US spying on Russians. There was no FISA warrant to listen to Flynn. The warrant was to listen to Russians. If Flynn got mixed up...that was on him.

    No one went after Flynn...Flynn was a willing participant on all counts.

    It is not for a judge to claim Flynn's Miranda rights. That has to be done by Flynn.
     
  9. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2017
    Messages:
    5,151
    Likes Received:
    4,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You say that no one went after Flynn while the original 302 write up has not been submitted to the judge.

    You are only correct in saying that they were not after Flynn. They were trying to illegally take down Trump.
     
    RodB likes this.
  10. TexMexChef

    TexMexChef Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,333
    Likes Received:
    503
    Trophy Points:
    83
    the only GOP crying on Brennan Comey and Clapper were the losers that lost the HRC investigations like...Nunes and Chaffetz
     
    Jonsa likes this.
  11. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    hahahahahaha! false equivalency rules!
     
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2017
    Messages:
    45,726
    Likes Received:
    26,786
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    :roflol:Yeah, but lying is. A crime to which Flynn CONFESSED. If you think Flynn forgot what he discussed just weeks earlier with Kislyak then I've got a bridge in the Mohave Desert to sell you.
     
  13. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    any beachfront available?
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2018
  14. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,509
    Likes Received:
    11,194
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The unmasking protocols were in no way followed in Flynn's case. The mere conversation between a citizen and the Russian ambassador (or any other foreigner) in no way shows any need for unmasking. Do you have any idea how many citizens talk with the ambassador?? probably in the thousands. And there is nothing more common and expected than a National Security Advisor talking with the ambassador. Flynn was unmasked (and leaked -- a crime) for the FBI for only one evident reason -- to set him up. And try to set him up they did. Unfortunately the FBI people who interviewed Flynn, Strzok and McCabe IIRC, found nothing wrong, no lying in their opinion. But it was close enough for the girls Mueller goes with -- his witch hunt needed it.
     
    Mac-7 likes this.
  15. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,509
    Likes Received:
    11,194
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You got yourself all tied up in knots. If a citizen talks with a foreigner who is being surveiled under a FISA warrant, it is not on him, for heavens sake. It is a heavy onus on the surveillers to take great care that the citizen is not exposed.
    Since when was Flynn a willing participants? ANS: since after he was hammered and threatened.
    So, you think that a person being arrested doesn't get his Miranda rights unless he asks for them?????? You get one more think.
     
  16. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,521
    Likes Received:
    14,942
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That is the fake, feeble pretense being touted by Flynn's nutboy spawn and the ideological media's parrots.

    It is laughable.

    It is highly likely that Flynn, with his extensive experience in matters of government protocol, would have encountered the concept of telling the truth when under oath without needing an attorney to inform him of it.

    Flynn has confessed that he had lied to FBI investigators about his contacts with Russian officials in that meeting.

    [​IMG]
    "They tricked me, Lyin' Don! They never
    said I should tell the truth under oath!"
     
    PeppermintTwist likes this.
  17. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,509
    Likes Received:
    11,194
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Where did you get the idea that Flynn was under oath during his conversation with the FBI??? HINT: look behind you...... lower.....
     
  18. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,011
    Likes Received:
    13,569
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Bull twaddle ... on many accounts. You don't need "legal expertise" to know that Clapper was not charged. You do not need legal expertise to know that lying to congress is a felony.

    You are engaging a fallacious appeal to authority and disingenuous ignorance. This is typical of the denial response of some religious right zealot when they come across information that conflicts with religious belief ... "Avoid the bad thought by all means possible - including irrational gibberish and demonization of the messenger.

    In your case it is not religion but your partisan political and necessary illusion bubble.
     
  19. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,195
    Likes Received:
    16,898
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Did he lie or did he just not remember accurately?
     
  20. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,195
    Likes Received:
    16,898
    Trophy Points:
    113
    All the information he had was that this was just a conversation not an interview. And what did he supposedly lie about?
     
  21. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,308
    Likes Received:
    11,158
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That the best you can do. These are gestapo tactics.

    Any one of these should have raised alarm bells before doing any prosecuting.

    1. Told he could appear without a lawyer.

    2. The interviewing FBI agents said they did not think he was lying.

    3. Coming up with records for the interview six months later with no original records for the interview.

    The sole purpose of prosecuting Flynn was to get Trump. It made no difference that they ruined someone else in the process. This should be alarming to everyone in the US. .I don't know what else you can call it except prosecutor abuse of power.
     
  22. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,308
    Likes Received:
    11,158
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The interviewing FBI agents did not think he was lying.
     
  23. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,521
    Likes Received:
    14,942
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And he had his fingers crossed behind his back when he lied to the FBI?

    Wow. What a wily rascal.
     
  24. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,308
    Likes Received:
    11,158
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    According to Flynn, they threatened him with more jail time if he did not confess and they threatened his family. Since we do not know what was said by Flynn in the recorded conversation or what was said in the FBI interview, we don't know that he forgot or anything else. Apparently they found some kind of difference in stories. Whether he forgot or it was an omission. It still comes down to the FBI agents who did not think he lied.
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2018
  25. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    his contacts with russians and the subject of those discussions. What was he fired for again?
     

Share This Page