Finally a president that is a man of his word and action.

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  1. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Intellectual clap trap. Terrorists are terrorists and it have zero to do with "religion." Massive land grab displacing inhabitants from their homes and lack of lead to insurrections and wars. The belief that religion have something to do with this madness is only for the weak minded.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now we see the phoniness of the "fiscal conservatives" come to light. LOL
     
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    So you actually support the liberal anti-muslim bigotry and the claims that muslims will always riot, murder and pillage if things don't go their way?
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At a cost of 3 billion??
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet people on the right have the fear of brown people. Go figure.
     
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    LOL....remind me again who are fighting against terrorists? is the ally Israel doing so? pardon me if don't give two bits about an "ally" that isn't contributing its resources to the fight on terrorism all the while sucking on US tax dollars for no good reasons.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Deflection and serious misunderstanding of a post. And you say Californians have a reading problem?
     
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    That was the essence of my post that you responded to. I said that the libs keep depicting the muslims as wild animals unable to control themselves and resorting to violence, murder and mayhem if things don't go their way. I said these liberal views of the followers of the religion of peace are disgusting and bigoted. Do you agree that the the muslims always resort to violence, murder, mayhem as your liberal comrades claim?
     
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    As long as it doesn't cost American lives, compromise our security and create another war in the region. This move is a biggie. His advisors, who know more than Trump knows, have advised against it for obvious reasons. We have other allies who Trump has dissed, no?
     
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    Nonsense, this has nothing to do with cowardice. Has to do with American security and lives, a situation that Trump overlooks. His advisors have opposed this action, and they are not cowards. But you know all this, yes?
     
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    He isn't a politician. He is a con man, among other things.
     
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    HE SIGNED THE WAIVER!!!. . . . NO PLANS FOR A MOVE!!!. . . . This is just another case of Trump calling attention to himself by shooting off his big mouth at the expense of everyone else; just remaking a vow, not fulfilling a promise.

    . . . . But consider the consequences which could have been avoided WITHOUT COMPROMISE.

    The propensity to be impervious to logic is apparently inherent to the Trumpian psyche, so I will bid you and your fantasies adieu.
     
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    Say what?

    Since when, we are all brothers and sisters
     
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    He is trying to do the right thing...
     
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    " Our Word " !! We had 17 people running for the Republican party

    All are campaigning saying whatever to get them noticed.

    Trump himself said he didn't think he had a chance in hell of winning....as usual he was promoting his brand

    So everyone campaigning....... ( especial;y someone such as Trump who claims he doesn't read ) before they consult with their State Dept is suppose to make solid decisions that if they are elected they will invoke.

    So far Trump has mentioned after the election he realized things that he would have to re evaluate his position.

    What a mistake .................
     
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    Why Chuck?


    Tell us what Trump did wrong except beat the Messiah heir to the throne...


    Tell us in your own words... please and thank you
     
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    Please specify how your personal life changed Chuck since Trump beat Hillary?

    Did Trump start a new war?

    Did Trump put new taxes on you Chuck?


    What did Trump do?
     
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    Trump has put people in cabinet positions which in many cases were found to be doing things wrong by the same branches they now head. To add to that instead of running these federal agencies they are systematically gutting them. EPA, State Dept etc

    He has pushed Congress to rush thru Legislation just to get a campaign win.

    Not to create Legislation for the good of all Americans. The Healthcare bills are a good example.

    Which only harmed Americans. Exempted millions of Americans and raised the cost of Healthcare.

    Thank Goodness Patriotic American Statesmen stood up against it.

    What happened to better and cheaper healthcare for all ? ( a broken campaign promise )

    Escalating the Rhetoric against North Korea. Just raised tensions without any benefit.........

    Creating a feud with the NFL............ Didn't get anywhere. Created divisions in our country.

    List can go on.......

    Essentially he's not attempting to Lead out Nation. Only pandering to his base ( 30 % of Americans )
     
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    You know, if we had not resisted the threats of others like Hitler and the Japanese, this nation wouldn't even exist today- but it does.
    IF we had not backed down in negotiating with the North Koreans, we wouldn't be facing a lunatic armed with nuclear ICBM's and threatening us everyday- but we are.
    Now if you can't figure out how those differences benefit the American people, you need to go back to remedial history classes..
    Try REALITY.
    Pretending "it ain't so" to please the Palestinians is a stupid game, a political edge for them to brag on.
    Jerusalem was named the capitol of Israel by Israel when it became a sovereign state in 1948. When Israel became the home of the Jewish people, in biblical days, Jerusalem was the capital.

    It's not something that just happened, nor are we the first nation to officially recognize it. Other countries have recognized Jerusalem as the capital. Israel had declared it the capital.
    The State of Israel maintains its primary governmental institutions there. Many embassies have been located in Tel Aviv, because of the potentially dangerous environment and location of Jerusalem, which has been subject to Palestinian rocket attacks for years. Denial of the fact is simply a political facade, and nobody is really fooled- nor will anything change.

    If some other country demanded that our Capital was Houston instead of Washington DC, and we had better agree or they would get mad- would you pretend it was so, out of fear?
    I would hope not.

    If YOU say the hammer you are going to drop shall land on your left foot, but I insist you don't have a left foot.... Then you have a comparable situation, where someone not involved in the control of the facts wants their opinion to over-ride reality. And of course, if you insist your left foot is actually your left foot and not your second right one, then I get to be offended and threaten violence. If anybody else agrees with you, I threaten them too. Who the hell wants to live in a world where that crap is tolerated? It makes no difference if the act is small or large- it's a precedent as to whether or not we are going to deal with fact, or we are going to pretend and be intimidated into appeasement out of fear.
     
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    So you are saying that wise Americans and good leadership requires that we always avoid upsetting anybody because they might be angry...
    and that is not, at least to you- Cowardice.

    And Washington is full of cowards- otherwise, we wouldn't be dealing with a nuclear armed North Korea today. The records of our past administrations have been miserable to say the least, failing financially, failing in trade, failing in domestic management and failing in world diplomacy. The solution to the failure is not more of the same.
     
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    Trump never tries to do the right thing. He always has an ulterior motive.
     
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    Because we don't place the embassy in Jerusalem to give the Palestinians hope that one day they can share what is clearly Israel's capital. It gives them false hope of a future which will never happen and therefore delays the peace process.

    Israel has permitted visits to the holy site for Arabs, its the Arabs who constantly claim they won't let Jews in if they get control.

    The notion that conservatives only want this because it's part of some end times fantasy is complete propaganda BS. I wanted it moved to Jerusalem and I'm an Atheist, **** religion.
     
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    Wasn't there a time when the Arabs controlled the area, and Jews weren't given access to the wall?
     
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    Precisely.

    I don't think "because otherwise terrorists will perpetrate terrorism" is a good excuse. Tel Aviv is blatantly not Israel's capital. Everyone knows it. We're just dancing around the issue because if we don't the Palestinians will bomb some Israeli children.
     

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