Finally a president that is a man of his word and action.

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  1. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remember this so called Man of his Word said he would NOT touch SS and Medicare ...
     
  2. Reality

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    They sure do quite a bit about hezbollah. They also help keep iran in check. You realize they act as bait..... right? Why attack the US when you can go attack the jews in israel who have the audacity to claim a city they built as their own capital!
    They are our stalking horse. I know you ****ing stormfront sad sacks just can't stand the jews, but would yall please sit down and shut the **** up while the adults are talking?
     
  3. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They NEED to be gutted. We could save tens of billions if we would get rid of unneeded agencies and their under worked over paid B'crats.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Back on thread, the bottom line here still remains the fact is Trump followed thru on a promise, and is really only recognizing the fact that the Capital of Israel is in Jerusalem!!!!!!!!!!!! What can be wrong with that.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do all people here on the forum know there NEVER was a country on the map known as Palestine?
     
  6. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    I presume you realize that Trump has also signed the 6 month waiver just as every President before him?
     
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    Israel has offered many times to send recourses in the fight against terrorism, and the U.S. has refused for obvious reasons.
     
  8. truth and justice

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    Derived from Philistia and much earlier than any country called Israel. Plus there are also maps centuries old with land titled as Philistia
     
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    True and it was occupied by Israelites first, not Palestinians.
     
  10. spiritgide

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    As in, he took the time to listen to the various advisors positions before he chose his course of action.
    Sounds like smart thinking to me...
     
  11. truth and justice

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    The current population in Israel and Palestine have ancestry who shared the same land
     
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  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Assuming your assertion is true, the people advising him must not be serious about a negotiated peace any more than Don is. Which would be not interested at all.
     
  13. truth and justice

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    No, he decided to stir up the nest just to distract the population from internal issues and then signed the waiver just as every other president has signed before him. He just wanted headlines
     
  14. Lee Atwater

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    The problem with that reasoning is that Trump doesn't know what he doesn't know. He has no clue about Israeli history because
    he doesn't read, and needs to follow this kind of advice. He gets his history from TV and has said so.
    American lives are at risk. I hope he is right with this decision.
     
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    The religious fanatics are burning stuff in protest.
     
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    Because they're more useful where they are. The israelis and ourselves derive mutual benefit from our alliance.
     
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    True, but way back then, the Israelites were the first through the doors.
     
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    I don't know that they were more useful where they were. The U.S was concerned that because of the intense hatred of the Jews
    by all the fighting groups, it would be best to keep them out of it.
     
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    I see.... if you don't "negotiate" from a position of weakness, you just don't know how to do it. Gotcha.
     
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    We all hope he has made the right decision- but this is a level 1-2 decision, not a 10.... unless you make it seem so.

    And- you don't know what you don't know either- none of us do. And, you don't know what Trump knows about Israeli history or what his advisors think.
    What you do know is that you don't agree- and given that, you conclude that he must be stupid because he didn't agree with you. While that is human nature, it's becoming sort of a plague these days with everybody proclaiming their righteous and immediate judgement.

    Time will tell.
     
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    **** with your asinine accusations. This have ZERO to do with hating jews but have more to do with why the US have to appease Israel, their government thereof. Only a juvenile would not be able to separate the two. Adults my @$$.
     
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    And there were never a country called Israel until we created one.
     
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    Your interpretation of how to negotiate from a position of strength is to take an action you know will result in a failure of negotiations.
     
  25. Reality

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    You cannot have sex with spoken word dear. Run along and play.
     

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