Florida now has America's lowest COVID rate. Does Ron DeSantis deserve credit?

In other words, when making international Covid19 comparisons, there are a whole lot of “footnotes”, right?

Next question; What are Florida’s Health, and other State’s Health Covid19 comparison Footnotes?

 

Right, but I'm just saying, the risk reduction is more like 90% than 50%. But yes, of course, people still need to mask up, social-distance, and be mindful of indoor spaces and traveling. We'll probably see at least a mini-surge due to the holidays. And vaccinated people should get boosters as soon as they're eligible. People at risk should get monoclonal antibodies as soon as infected.

 

Absolutely. And I looked up the obesity rate. United States is 42 percent Canada's is only 24.

Someone tell me again what covid does with obese people?

There was no chance in hell this wasn't going to heavily impact the United States. Even if Biden were in charge at the time.

 

I said the risk reduction of sequelae was 50% in breakthrough infections. Once the breakthrough infection occurs the reduced risk of infection is a complete non factor. The unlucky individual wasn’t one of the beneficiaries of reduced risk of infection because they are infected.

We are on the same page, just not the same sentence. It’s fine.

 

Another reality to warm up too. There is no chance in hell you won't get the delta at some point. Be it 2 weeks or 2 years from now.

 

We won’t know until Florida Health publishes its 2020/2021 official count of deaths, and causes of death.

AND I can’t wait for their 2020 annual report because I’ll be rattling a whole lot of cages.

 

The Delta variant won't be around in two years time. I predict that in two years time a variant of Delta will be around that is less deadly than Delta and vaccine uptake will be on par as the winter flu vaccine uptake is right now

 

We already have that now. But the delta will need to do it's full rounds before it dies off.

Warm up too it

 

That's not what this doctor says.

03 FDA and CDC Knew Myocarditis Risks
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/03-fda-and-cdc-knew-myocarditis-risks_oANvXaccM8uGsil.html

 

It's about freedom.of.choice and realizing and weighing your personal options.

 

Canada has 10 people per square mile. Florida has more than 35 TIMES that population density! By bypassing a sensible comparison of FL with several US states, in order to compare FL with the Tenth least density populated country in the world is a remarkable contortion of several magnitudes in an attempt to make a point. That DeSantis' performance is so spectacular that his critics are reduced to this effectively makes the case for what a truly fabulous job he has done, thank you.

are you now reduced to personal insults? Sad!

Further, a solid measure of CURRENT conditions are the number of active cases vs population size.
CA has 12% of the Us population, but, 23% of the active cases. That is, with 1/8th the population they have 1/4th the active cases. It appears that only political opportunism explains your fixation with DeSantis, rather than Gov Greaseball who screwed his best friend and campaign manager's wife.

GA has 3% of the population, but 5% of the active cases.
WA has 2% of the population but 4% of the active cases.
FL has 6% of the population but only 4 of the active cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/#graph-deaths-daily

Hell of a job, Ron!

 

That's why, in my longer post, I said overall risk reduction, in population terms rather than individual terms. But yes, once someone catches a breakthrough infection, then it's 50%. I think this will get better once more people get boosters.

 

Solid measure! It's blatantly obvious that active cases are not updated!
Do you really think that half of California's total number of cases since the start of the pandemic still have the virus. You really should give up as you clearly have no idea

 

Quote; Canada has 10 people per square mile, Florida has more than 35 times that population density.

Really!

South Dakota.......States Population Density; 11.3 people per square mile.....Number of Covid deaths per 1M pop; 2,526

Canada......Population Density; 11 people per square mile........Number of Covid19 deaths per 1M pop; 759


What’s your next retarded explanation?.......Canada/South Dokota Obesity Rates?

 

Oh, yes but that’s a different issue. That’s myocarditis caused by vaccination. I’m talking about myocarditis caused by the actual infection with SARS-CoV-2.

 

Fair enough. As usual we are in agreement on the data.

 

I love it when Americans try to use population density in an argument. It is only ever right wing Americans who do it, and it always makes them seem loike the losing team in a junior high school debate.

Let me guess, you think all Canadians live in the middle of their individually allotted piece of territory, right? Because that is the only way your density statistic would be relevant. Of course, Canadians live in urban areas, just like Americans. That means they overwhemlingly interact with people within in a relatively small radius from where they live, generally in the same urban area. In fact, 81% of them live in urban areas, leaving vast areas of Canada with little or no population. In Florida it is 87% who live in urban areas. Not exactly a huge difference there. Certainly not big enough to explain the VAST difference in deaths.

Then we have age demographics. As we know, COVID is more deadly for over 55s. Florida's population of over 55 is around 27%. Canada's over 55s are over 30% of the population. Canada is also slightly ahead for over 65s.

Oh, and Canada has a long border with a nation that had one of the worst COVID outbreaks in the world, which can't be said for Florida.

So, this brings us back to the inescapable fact that Florida mismanaged the virus, resulting in a lot of unnecessary deaths. Of course, as conservatives reminded us repeatedly throughout the pandemic, these are 'only' people in high risk categories. Funny how the people who spent years screaming about 'death panels' spontaneously formed one the moment they were asked to wear masks. OK, not funny. Also not suprising.

 

Bold part, what a great point! Not to forget, it's not even "only" people in high risk categories. It's certainly "most" but not "only" because some of the deaths occurred in people who weren't at a particular risk and didn't have co-morbidities. Examples are numerous. More than 600 children. I know of two young doctors in their late twenties, 100% healthy, who died. A case of that ultra-healthy Broadway actor/singer, fit and strong, early 40's, who had a horrible case, battled it for months, had a leg amputated, lung issues, kidney insufficiency, and ended up dying, leaving behind his young wife and baby son. Certainly this virus kills preferentially the old and infirm, but not only. Not to forget, a lot of young people do survive it but collect organ damage from it, including ultra-healthy college athletes, like studies have shown.

 

The United States has a 44 percent obesity rate, while Canada has 25 percent. Are you denying the effect of a comorbid such as obesity effecting the outcome of something like Covid?

Please say yes!

Spoiler

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8073853/

 

Told him the same thing several months ago, however, “in one ear, out the other”

In this forum, one can easily notice who has a mental deficiency.

 

You’re the denying the main reasons why, per capita, U.S. number of Covid19 deaths is near 4 times higher than Canada, AND obesity isn’t a main reason.

Thus, keep living a lie if that makes you feel better.

 

You know that not, my good sir. I'd rather keep muh freedom and just chill out with the restrictions knowing that covid is going to do it's thing REGARDLESS based on the demographics. Rather then let people like you dictate what I can and cannot do.

Sowwy.

 

Tell me Toughtalk, do you have to show a vaccination bar code from your I phone, and a photo ID to dine in restaurants?

Hint; I just visited my Daughter in British Columbia, Canada, and said proof of vaccination is nation-wide

 

List off the population of the 5 biggest cities in Canada then compare them to the 5 biggest cities in the us.

Then let me know what the results are

 

The vaccination rates increased. It’s not rocket science.