How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Meta777, Aug 4, 2018.

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Abortions are declining and are at a decade low. Do your party a favor and leave the fake news to the lefties! Abortions are legal and easy to get, yet they are declining without the overreaching hand of the government. Abortion laws, like laws prohibiting evil thoughts, are useless and unenforceable.

    Since we're on the subject, how would you enforce these laws?
     
  2. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are incorrect. I like the law right where it is.
     
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    I said that you AREN'T arguing to reverse the law on abortion.
     
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    And this applies to those who refuse to provide care for precious little BORN lives?
     
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    How are they not the same subject? If someone is worthless to society, how could anyone say that they are a valuable life?
     
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    Someone may VALUE them despite what you claim society thinks...THAT is what we were discussing, people VALUING others....NOT whether someone is worthless to society.
     
  7. Doofenshmirtz

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    Oh! Thats different.

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    I am saying that they wouldn't be valuable to society.
     
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    No one is arguing to reverse the law on murder or rape, but you aren't arguing to reverse the law on abortion, one of the reasons being that it wouldn't stop abortion even though it is no different to rape and murder in that a law against it wouldn't stop all occurrences.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suppose claiming to care without taking action does provide a warm feeling, kind of like receiving a participation trophy. You don't have to do anything, but congratulations; you showed up!

    If you will excuse me, I have to go claim I care about the homeless by insisting they move in with you. Im just that kind of guy!
     
  11. MAGA

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    Your analogy just slapped you in the face.

    It is you that expect people that respect life to do what you refuse to do.

    Unless you are pro-choice for killing the homeless. They are unwanted, after all.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Someone may VALUE them despite what you claim society thinks...THAT is what we were discussing, people VALUING others....NOT whether someone is worthless to society.



    Who TF are you to determine what "society" values and that was NOT what we were discussing.



    Someone may VALUE them despite what you claim society thinks...THAT is what we were discussing, people VALUING others....NOT whether someone is worthless to society.



    Now this topic has been hashed to death , I said what I had to say and you asked questions....put a fork in it.
     
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    You have already exposed yourself as only being sanctimonious. Your caring stops where effort on your part starts. That is no different than not caring at all.

    My daughters friend from school asked to sleep over on a regular basis. Eventually, we found out that it was because she was being abused at home and sleeping over was her way of escaping. We became her permanent home. She has a degree in psychology and is pursuing her doctorate. Her goal in life is to help others who had to endure the kind of abuse she lived through.

    Instead of attacking me for pointing this out, why don't you do something to be a part of the solution?
     
  14. MAGA

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    You let an abused girl have an occasional "sleep over"? Well, that's better than nothing.

    I didn't say I did nothing.

    There is no solution without the acknowledgement of human rights. Without human rights, everyone is a potential slave / abortee.
     
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    You are correct...without the right to their own bodies women are slaves..
     
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    Read Hyde amendment ..I guess you don’t want to save women’s lives either
     
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    Silly question!
     
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    Yes, and I hope you think they should be supported by the government if the mother couldn’t get an abortion .
     
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    She hid the abuse and that she was planning on taking her own life. We did not know at the time. Once we found out, we became her permanent home. We adopted her. We were extremely lucky she felt comfortable talking to us. I am very proud of my daughter.
     
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    And women killed by illegal abortions has decrease drastically.....you care more about zygotes than women
     
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    Yes abortions sky rocketed because it was legal. Same with polio shots when it became available
    You act as though women never had abortions.....and when they became legal they didn’t have to risk death
     
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    So after their arms are ripped off and their heads are crushed THEN they get the right to their own body.

    You're so compassionate.
     
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    That's false.

    I never acted as if women never had illegal abortions. You either imagined it, made it up, or confused me with someone else.
     
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    About 1/2 of the millions of zygotes killed would have been women when they grew up. You don't care about women or you wouldn't hate them when they were young.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    You are correct...without the right to their own bodies women are slaves..




    Please show WHERE in my post I said that....you can't so you know what that makes you...:)
     
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