If killing your baby was acceptable, would more women do it?

So obviously you don't think people can change, right? Not all women have multiple abortions. If your talking about punishment then why don't we take everyones drivers licenses away that have gotten a DUI or major traffic mishap that killed someone? Why don't we ban people from getting married a second time if they have been previously divorced?
I had an abortion and I changed. Today I have two wonderful and productive children and I am able to work telling women about the dangers and the consequences of abortion.
The procedure is haunting...it is horrible and terribly painful. It was worse than both my natural births...and emotionally....that you will never know.

 

Sounds great doesn't it? Sounds like something Hitler would have done...or Margaret Sanger. You want to be like them?

How bout work hard to change the present laws that are on the books? How about marching down to your local CPC, or Right to Life office...and volunteer to help?

The thing you don't realize Libhater...abortions are also done on those who claim to be Christian...and conservative. Liberals are not the only women who get abortions. The abortion face is comprised of every ethnic group, race, age and marital status there is. They do it for every reason you can come up with....

So to be honest......liberals are not the only ones in the abortion lines.

 

I've already addressed the fact that all walks of life and all denominations of people get abortions with about 75% of Americans claiming Christian status. My point was that these women getting abortions and claiming to be Christians are merely CINOs or Christians in name only. Most of them have probably never been baptized, never prayed to GOD, never confessed their sins, never received the holy communion etc. But I would have a problem accepting the notion that there are true Conservative values women out there that would give in to this horrible act of Satan called abortion.

I have 3 ex wives that were all liberals, all non Christian and two of them got abortions and the other one got her tubes tied because she couldn't bear the prospect of suffering through the birthing process.

 

From YOUR previous post: "One would have to be completely nuts to expose any personal information with people on the internet""

I agree...

 

LOL! THREE ex-wives!....why didn't you stay married to the first one...afterall it was your CHOICE and you believe that even if people make mistakes they should have to suffer with them the rest of their lives........RIGHT?




""""My point was that these women getting abortions and claiming to be Christians are merely CINOs or Christians in name only. Most of them have probably never been baptized, never prayed to GOD, never confessed their sins, never received the holy communion etc."""


And, of course, you'll be right back with proof of that....

 

Not getting what saying here. My choice was to divorce the biitch, and that's exactly what I did.




""""My point was that these women getting abortions and claiming to be Christians are merely CINOs or Christians in name only. Most of them have probably never been baptized, never prayed to GOD, never confessed their sins, never received the holy communion etc."""

The only proof I need to qualify my assertions that hese women are non Christians is that they went ahead and murdered their babies.

 

What does the Bible say about judging? For that matter, what does it say about divorce?

 

This isn't about judging as much as it is in describing the person or describing the mindset of the person who brings this abortion madness to fruition. More to the point, you might want to check out what the Bible says about premeditated murder.

 

Yes, you are definitely judging who is a Christian and who is not, by your own standards. What does the Bible say about abortion?

 

Nice squirm!!!! But it didn't work too well...


So you didn't have a choice in marrying her?

...why didn't you stay married to the first one...afterall it was your CHOICE TO MARRY HER and you believe that even if people make mistakes they should have to suffer with them the rest of their lives........RIGHT?

 

No, it's about you thinking you can, god-like, read people's minds and hearts....that's the sin of Pride....but then again, I always said you are the perfect christian....

 

Funny that, the bible also tells you to kill any who are not Christian, even if it is your own family .. do you?

The bible tells you to stone all the adulterous .. do you?

Deuteronomy 22:13-21 (King James Version) - http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:13-21&version=KJV

Even you according to the bible have committed adultery

So before you shout about women who have abortions as non-christians, take a good long hard look in the mirror, you are far from a christian yourself ..

 

I've previously stated that I fall short of being the perfect Christian, as is anyone holding the title of being a mere mortal. What I am saying here is that any woman who decides to abort her child doesn't have the neccessary qualifications or ingredients needed to call themselves a true Christian. All Christians are sinners, but only non Christians would make the mortal sin of aborting their baby. Any true Christian would not even consider going against our 6th Commandment of ..Thou Shall Not Kill!

 

If you are not a "perfect" Christian what gives you the right to judge if others are or not.

Do you support the death penalty, do you support war .. if so you are helping to break the 6th commandment.

 

You missed some of Fugazi's pertinent questions....why?


Then you contend that no christian ever committed murder..Gee, did ya miss the enitre history of the world...christians even brag about how many they killed....Who are YOU to say they aren't christians????


..LOL! I knew christians were weak but squirming out of it by saying they aren't REALLY christians just doesn't cut it anymore....


AND if they aren't christians why are you so worried about them???? Why don't you pay more attention to your own multiple sins?? And your own multiple bad choices

 

You don't exactly have to be a Saint to look down upon serial killer rapists. That's really what abortion is - rape in the womb. The fetus's bodily integrity is being violated, all so that the woman can experience consequence-free unabashed sexual pleasure.

 

Off topic much?

On the other hand you also seem to be missing the history of the world if you wish to think what you have said is true.

 

I'm not able to talk directly to these non Christian women that had an abortion, but it might behoove you to talk to any of them to first find out if they indeed consider themselves Christians, and if yes, then ask them what makes them believe that they are Christian. I doubt any of them can come up with a reasonable answer to that question since they're destroying the very life that GOD gave us in the first place. Its not very Christian-like to kill your own baby.

 

Libhater said,

But they might again claim to be Christian and then not follow the faith at all. Standing in a garage does not make you a car....sitting in church and claiming it does not make one a Christian. Only god knows our hearts. And while we can judge words and actions...we can't judge someones heart.

And I see the point your trying to make and agree to a point. But one can believe in God and Christ and sin. So a believer could lapse into sin. Abortion is just one sin. So if you say a woman who aborts can't be a Christian...then you would have to include every other sin in the book.

You have no way of knowing that. And I do not believe that one needs to be Baptized or take the sacraments to be saved. The thief on the cross was never baptized, nor did he take Communion and Jesus said, today you will be with me in paradise. Baptism is an outward expression of ones love for Christ. But once baptized people still sin. You seem to be holding Christians up to standards they can't possibly fulfill.

You put abortion apart from all sin. God forgives.....he knows our hearts and knows if our repentance is genuine. It does not matter what you or I think...

It is biblical that we should marry someone equally yoked. If you''re a Christian and conservative, why did you marry nonChristians and liberal at that?

You have been divorced how many times? What does God say about divorce?

The point of asking....is to show that you sin and you are a Christian. It is possible to sin and be a Christian. There is no one on earth who does not sin. It is because of this we need Christ.

 

Nope, not off topic....it's about misogynists and hypocrites lying about women killing babies and demonizing them...

 

Why not? If your passionate about this...get involved...make a difference....work with women who have done this...like I have. As I said....one can sin terribly...and still believe in Christ. What you do with the sin makes a difference and as I said...God knows our hearts and will punish us accordingly. Yes your right...it's not very Christian like to abort your child...but its not Christian like to swear, to covet, to divorce, to have sex outside marriage....etc. etc.

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Your position...champions the killing of living human beings....it is THE position that is immoral, sad, lifeless, sick.

 

But with due respect it isn't about YOUR idea of what the qualifications are....it is about God's and His alone. You can judge women's actions...but not their hearts. That is Gods job. He bases his judgement on HIS STANDARDS, not ours. Do you think that a person could become a Christian after having an abortion? Of course they can. That is what the Great Commission is all about....spreading the Gospel of Jesus,salvation, and forgiveness and Grace. The Apostle Paul...killed Christians for a living...and God picked him for His mission. Look at the ungodly men and women in the Bible that Jesus shown his light on. So don't talk about women who have aborted their babies, abortionists that do the killing....and all those involved....like they can't have a change of heart...because you would be wrong, they do and they can...it is possible.

What you are saying is that...Paul, King David, and all the sinful people God selected for His purpose...cant be favored by God, that it is impossible. According to scriptures you are wrong.

I think it best if you read some scriptures and pray on this. Especially read about divorce in Gods eyes. Because you have had 2 or 3....can you also not be a Christian. BEcause no Christian would get a divorce would they?

 

Anders we all know already that you have a very unhealthy liking for abuse, no need to remind us. what with your fascination with if its possible for a man to push his penis so far inside a pregnant woman that he violates the fetus and your championing euthanasia for DS & Mixed race newborns, I would think most people on both sides would steer well clear of you.

 

My position does not champion the killing of living human beings so that is an "error" on your part.

As to "sad, lifeless, and sick"....I don't dwell in sick self-loathing , I don't psychotically beat myself up over past mistakes ,
I have a life and allow others to have theirs...I am happy, you sure don't sound very happy....

 

You really need to re-read this every time before you post that people LOVE abortion, that people are murderers .. as someone pretty well known said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone" & "For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you measure, it shall be measured to you again."