The tyrannical oppression of blacks by whites in America didn't end "two or more centuries ago" because it continues today. Additionally the harm caused by slavery in the United States has yet to be corrected. White America is still benefiting from slavery because White America never provided the compensatory damages necessary to mitigate the financial, social and political damage inflicted upon blacks in America.
The term "white guilt" did not originate with liberals that are opposed to racism. It's a term coined by racists used to disparage those that oppose racism. It's the white racist that applies to the term to white liberals that oppose racism that are empathetic to blacks that have been and continue to be oppressed by the white racists. The actual white liberal opposed to racism never feels guilty because they're not the racist.
I am not racist in any way. I am a bigot of some note tho, I hate racists (of all colors and ideologies), neo-nazi/fascists, holocaust deniers/jew haters, religious fanatics of all stripes, commies and paedophiles. All of my hatreds are ideological in nature, with the exception of paedophiles who to my way of thinking should be removed from the gene pool as expeditiously as possible.
I wasn't even thinking about the history. I was thinking why would someone feel guilty because they happen to have the same skin color as some ******* that killed people. Why not the same hair or Eye color? Should I feel guilty because I am from dutch ancestry and that Vandersloot clown was too?
You don't -really- mean to equate 19th century chattel slavery to today's race relations. I'll let you take that back. How do you suppose something that happened 150 years ago can be "corrected", given that all those who suffered under it are dead, as are all those responsible for it. Show me one person held as a slave prior to 1866 and I will personally pay him $1,000,000 And... if this is your argument for why white people should feel guilt, I cannot help but laugh in your face.
China was never able to feed itself. 1) Great North China Famine, over 10 million Chinese died of starvation. Northern Chinese Famine of 1876–79, Wikipedia Chinese Famine, in 1907, 25 million Chinese died of starvation. In 1920’s , 1930’s , 1940’s, over 10 million Chinese died of starvation. List of famines in China, Wikipedia In 1959-1961, 30,000,000 Chinese died of starvation. Great Chinese Famine, Wikipedia 2) Cannibalism in China 2.1) Till 1905, In China, the flesh of the executed prisoners may have been sold as medicine/food. Lingchi , Wikipedia Liu was executed. Onlookers bought a piece of his flesh for one qian (the smallest currency at the time) and consumed it with rice wine. Liu Jin, Wikipedia Yuan was executed. Many Beijing residents rushed to buy his body parts so they could eat them as soon as the body parts were sliced off from his body...(When the prisoner was still alive). Yuan Chonghuan, Wikipedia 2.2) Some Chinese generals ordered their soldiers to eat human flesh as daily meal. Huang Chao used hundreds of stone mortars to grind human flesh. (Massacres in ancient history | The World of Chinese) Huang Chao, Wikipedia Zhu had some 200,000 men, Zhu then encouraged his soldiers to eat women and infants, stating, "Human flesh is the most delicious flesh. As long as there are people around, we need not worry about hunger." Zhu Can, Wikipedia 2.3) Chinese do eat babies The Duke said, "the only thing which I have yet to taste is steamed infant." Then, Yi Ya steamed his first-born and offered him to the Duke. Duke Huan of Qi, Wikipedia 2.4) Chinese in Taiwan ate and traded in the flesh of Taiwanese aboriginals. Cannibalism, Wikipedia
The "advanced" ancient China? Recently certain major points were disclosed in "Junk History ", a TV documentary concerning Gavin Menzies’ 1421: The Year China Discovered the World. Carried out by the investigative reporter Quentin McDermott, it disclosed the publishing background for a so-called revisionist history by a previously unknown writer . A startling revelation was made that Gavin Menzies did not actually write what he calls “my book”. “Among those brought in to help was an experienced ghost-writer” ! http://www.1421exposed.com/index.html
I am proud to be white bet your ass.. Look at all we have accomplished advancing the human race through the creation of technology, raised the standard of living YUGE..
IMHO, no one should feel guilty or entitled by the chance of birth. They have no control over that. The ones trying for control are those who feel themselves inferior.
An exceptionally good question but it's fundamentally flawed. Compensation can really only be determined once equality is achieved in all social, economic, and political institutions. Let's just take one item out of one of those categories. Generational wealth. Generational wealth has a huge financial impact on successive generations. When the slaves were freed they had no generational wealth. For the freed blacks to achieve equality with the existing generational wealth of whites in America it would require 15 generations assuming all other financial considerations (e.g. wages) were the same. That's 450 years to achieve equality. You can't just give them the money either because blacks, even today, are only earning 60% of what whites are earning so the generational wealth is lost because of the lack of equality in employment. Generational wealth must be earned to a large degree because it's the knowledge and the skills as well as the social, economic and political forces necessary to create the wealth that's being passed on to future generation as much as it is money. First we have to overcome the anti-black prejudice and ensure social, economic, and political equality. Until that equality is achieved we need to subsidize the American blacks with government welfare assistance but this introduces a new problem. If the welfare assistance doesn't result in a "decent living" then we're driving an increase in the compensation for past losses. It isn't about just providing compensation based upon the slavery but also compensation for every generation of blacks since slavery that was unable to provide a decent living (plus interest).
Ancestrally I'm a W.A.S.P. and every time someone says this I just have to shake my head in disbelief. First of all it's people taking credit for something that they didn't do personally but that they associate with because of racism. People create technology, not races, and they're individuals that have lived in an advantageous society providing them with the opportunity to explore and create the new technology. Those that are disparaged, discriminated against, and oppressed live in a disadvantageous society and lack the freedom to create new technology. Next is that if we trace the history of the development of the technology in the majority of cases it takes us back to "non-white" people that laid the groundwork. If not for the groundwork the technology cannot exist. By way of example the laptop I'm using today is based upon the numbers zero and one. Guess who invented the zero that makes computer technology available for us today? It wasn't a white person, it wasn't a Christian, and they weren't from Europe. http://www.livescience.com/27853-who-invented-zero.html The number zero was introduced to the "White Christians of Europe" by the North African (Muslim) Moors just when the "White People of Europe" were plunging headfirst into the Dark Ages in which ignorance and superstition prevailed establishing the foundation for the "right-wing" culture of today, The Dark Ages also provided the anti-intellectual foundation for White Nationalism/White Supremacism in America today.
So you want me to take credit for the negative things my race has done in the past but not the positive? I'm guilty AF for slavery but not for the computer.. lol
Yes because the only people who worry about it are right wingers trying to discredit legitimate concerns with bs arguments. It is a straw man, a lie perpetuated by the right-wing media. White guilt only exists in the minds of Fox News viewers, Breitbart, and other such nonsensical sources.
Then why were the Jews able to come to America after WWII, having been stripped of everything, and were then able to completely dominate financially in a very short period of time??? Eh?? I can tell you why if you want.. LMK
Compassion, understanding, empathy, outrage over injustices, is not guilt. Perhaps the problem is that the right wing generally fails to understand these concepts.
How much freaken money do you want to hand them? Enough WELFARE for a "decent living".. What? $50k a year each? And compensate for losses going back generationS PLUS INTEREST?? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
I do not think there are any white people who feel guilty. I am theoretically white, but as a Jew from Russia I am not really a white American.
Definitely -- minorities in USA are in a considerably worse position then Jews were in USSR. Minorities are disproportionately imprisoned in USA.
I do not think anything will be done. In USA, African Americans are a minority. In Russia 1917, former serfs were the majority -- thus they overthrew the nobles. The nobles property was divided and my great-grandparents got a room per family. All my ancestors are Jewish.
