Mick Mulvaney publicly confirms Trump held up Ukraine aid for political gain

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  1. AKS

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    Ummm, if you're being coy knock it off. If you're not then, I'm sorry to say, I don't have the patience to continue this conversation. Have a great day, Fred. I do appreciate your tone over some of the other ***hats around here.
     
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    Well, IMHO, it actually sort of does matter who made the actual decision, but regardless, if you aren't sure who made the actual call, it's probably best just to say "the administration" instead of "Trump"...
     
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    Umm whatever. trump is used as a generic term for his administration all the f***ing time. He even does it himself. Kind of pedantic on your part, dontcha think?
     
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    Quid Pro Quos are fine and dandy.

    Quid Pro Quos for personal political gain are not. And that is why Trump is facing an impeachment inquiry and why a significant plurality of Americans, if not an outright majority, believe he should be impeached and removed.
     
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    And the worst part of the Witch Hunt was that there was no evidence of any crime before it even began. It was all manufactured, cost time and money, exposed government agencies to corruption, and divided Americans. Now Schiff and Co. are at it again and, again, apparently with the blessings of their left wing sycophants. It should stop immediately and let the electors decide next November.
    There is an opinion against it but no prohibition.
    That's a face saving excuse by the Dem leadership but will go nowhere. They were also prepared to charge Bush with war crimes when he left office also, to assuage the Bush Derangement Syndromites, but that was quickly forgotten.
    Great. Nor should anyone.
    The Biden's made a ton of money from the Ukraine while administering US Aid. Was there a genuine QPQ involved?

    These agencies have shown themselves to be inept, dishonest and corrupt. Like the Mueller report they have no credibility whatsoever and, as well, no real investigation into the Ukraine background has taken place. If it were we would have seen the results, Trump wouldn't have had to ask, and the Left wouldn't be making such a fuss because he did ask.
     
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    What "personal political gain" are you referring to? Can you offer a straightforward response?
     
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    When Mulvany said quid pro quo he was referring to the treaty between the US and Ukraine. But the left hears only what indicts Trump. They are just trying to scare off the Durham investigation. The DOJ has Mifsud's Blackberry's.
     
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    "Did he also mention to me the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely. No question about it. But that's it. That's why we held up the money."

    Treaty, you say? We had a treaty with Ukraine that contains language about a DNC server??

    That's one complete treaty!!

    (P.S. Bullshit dude)
     
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    The President was happy with the Mueller Report. Please show where he discredited the report. Of course it was always a Witch Hunt and it is no time for another. Stll, that seems to be what Adam, Nancy and Co. want. It will be the same results but they don't care.
     
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    The Ukraine is one of many countries which have treaties regarding international corruption and that corruption can take many forms..
     
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    You're missing the latest act. He embraced it for a few days, when he thought he could get away with claiming that it totally exonerated him. Once it was shown that it did not, he turned against it, as in this quote:
    "As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it, if that's possible." [quoted from page 3 of the transcript of the Trump-Zelenskyy tel-con].
     
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    This is what Trump was referring to and, of course, Mueller was pathetic and sad.
     
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    Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, the DNC.
     
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    Link to it please, you forgot. :roll:

    The treaty was to root out corruption on both sides.
     
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    Read the transcript of the Trump-Zelenskyy tel-con, wherein he criticizes Mueller's report and appearance before Congress...by saying "that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible."
     
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    Both true statements and both completely unconnected to anything in this thread..

    But thanks.. here's one for you

    The capital of Ukraine is Kiev..
     
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    Poor Fred...you're grasping at straws, as is the President. Lipstick on a pig, Fred.
     
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    What? This thread title may help.
    Mick Mulvaney publicly confirms Trump held up Ukraine aid for political gain
     
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    We have a corrupt MSM solely focused on .5% of the Press Conference and ignoring everything else that debunks that .5%. It's amazingly Orwellian and these Leftists follow right along.
     
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    That too has absolutely nothing wrong with it, unless a person is a hardcore Leftist. Trump is 100% in line legally, politically, and morally on that call.
     
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    Congress is going to decide that. My opinion is that he's out on all three counts...legally, politically and morally.
     
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