New Executive Order allows Businesses to buy insurance across state lines.

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  1. Hotdogr

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    Spare me the emotional canard, it is of no use here.

    You ignore the fact that Trump is a worthless demagogue and has done nothing of value since taking office.

    Useless.
     
  3. hawgsalot

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    I think what you meant was the American people are holding the democratic party responsible for their miserable failures, all the while spending money like a rat on acid. I know you believe in your cause but your cause is what the American people don't believe in. 90% of American had good enough healthcare and were sold a false promise of lower premiums and better coverage which is 100% the opposite of what has happened. Some how we now pay insurance companies billions in subsidies and they still raise the insurance price. Unfortunately, I don't think you can fix only one side of this and that's the problem. Tort law reform needs to happen to lower physician cost, drug prices are a major factor in insurance cost and needs to be addressed, and finally the market has to be freed up to allow competition instead of lobbyist hand picking who gets what.

    Let me give you an example of how screwed up this is. One company I'm involved with has 2900 employees, the ACA was going to kill them. They went to the Caribbean, started a health insurance company to self insure normal patient needs and purchased catastrophic plans for their employees with high deductibles that the company covered in a catastrophic event. This company now has have over 20 million in healthcare fund today and their employees are now paying 30% less, with much better coverage than when the ACA started. So you tell me, where is the f'ing money going these insurance companies are getting, it sure as hell isn't for coverage.
     
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    You cry about emotions and then you post the above along with the rest of your posts that rely on feelings and nothing factual?

    I'm looking at $804.30 a month with a 12,800 deductible coming up.. So rant away its not going to change that.

    *Affordable* my ass.
     
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    They have something like that already.
     
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    Trump handled 3 hurricanes in spectacular fashion, is actively trying to secure our borders, stock markets are soaring along with jobs, hes strengthening our military. you know all things invisible to a lefty.
     
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    Are 'labs & panels' the same as 'bloodwork'?
     
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    No he didn't.. He handled Irma and Harvey fairly well so far.. Puerto Rico .. not at all. Threatening PR is a low life thing to do.. and its only because they didn't worship him.. Alpha male is more fragile than a snowflake.
     
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    BS on Puerto Rico, the Governor and everyone else involved gave him an A+. The one nutty mayor that didn't take the time to even go to the planning meetings with FEMA is the only one whining. You can't blame Trump for Puerto Rico being isolated with HUGE infrastructure issues before it was even hit.
     
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    He campaigned against 0bamacare. I think he was genuinely PO'ed about it.
     
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    whats news are you watching? The mayors in PR thanked him except for the one that failed at politicising it for election purposes. lol threatened PR. So cute when leftists make things up.
     
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    So arrogant she was, she thought her win margin was so high she could insult half of the nation and still win. Their tears that night brought me great joy.
     
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    Insurance across state lines is supposed to increase competition. When have you aver heard a CEO cheer for more competition?
     
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    lmfao. A border wall we will pay for, a military overbloated and waging illegal wars for over a decade, and 3 hurricanes in a FAILURE fashion.

    YOU. You lose.
     
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    This! All healthcare is NOT equal!! There's a yuge difference between treating strep throat and brain surgery.
     
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    Good! So "Progressives" are equally committed to individual Liberty and Freedom. Good to know, welcome aboard!
    Who said this was easy? It's not.
    The Dems are monolithic in their obstruction and the GOP has a majority in name only (MINO).

    So to summarize:
    - Nothing easy about it.
    - I applaud your commitment to Individual Liberty and Freedom
    - GOP has a MINO in the US Senate.
     
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    So Much Winning! With Trump in charge!
     
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    i honestly dont know, but lab work could be it.
     
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    Good for you, you have every excuse covered.
     
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    Yes he did make the mess.
     
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    Maybe wait with the victory lap until insurance premiums actually go down while coverage remains the same and nobody gets kicked off insurance. If that happens, I am ready to cheer as well. I am not holding my breath, though.
     
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    Trump admitted Obamacare is workign, but insurance companies are not passing the savings on to the American people, they are just making instance companies rich - fact is, republicans said no to the public option saying that woudl could trust insurance companies... republicans were wrong

    the conservatives individual mandate is what caused insurance companies to raise deductibles and rates... time to remove the individual mandate and add a public option
     
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    How is paying over $800 a month just for medical with a $12,800 family deductible for my wife and I "working"?
     
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