Nuclear Deal Reached With Iran

I have so many comments on this article I wont put to writing unless you will trust that I give a true testament as an Israeli Jew born and raised in Israel.

 

Miko Peled is also an Israeli Jew born in Jerusalem.

 

I was talking about the Arab attempts to ethnic cleanse the Jews, you have an arsenal of justifications for that, the Jews simply shouldnt have won the war...

 

Dont know him, there are about 5,000,000 Israeli Jews born in Israel, can you bring yourself to listen to ppl that are not anti-Zionists?, I dont think so, thx for saving me the time.

 

Sorry, but it is your education which is lacking. This is well-documented fact; something which your precious America evidently isn't keen on you being aware of:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/UncleSam_PolPot.html
http://www.newstatesman.com/node/137397

 

It dependes on what you consider "hostile" to American interests. If, for example, you overthrow a legitimate democracy for oil-which you did in 1953-then you have absolutely no right to lecture anyone about democracy, having clearly demonstrated your total disregard for the democratic process. And Americans stare blankly and wonder why their crass hypocrisy is laughed at as they blunder into yet another inept foreign policy disaster, spreading freedom and democracy bombs around the planet.
America has become a parody.

"We want to support democracy". Only if it's the right kind. Right? Thanks for the laugh

 

I at least partly understand your position. Empires and Nation-Sates have been vying for control, for "spheres of infuence," forever. A while back the Russians had their preferred socialist leader in power in Afghanistan and the US suppled rebels with Stinger missiles and other weapons to help to vanquish the Russians, and now the US is in charge there, and so on.

But, when you discuss which position the US should take, how about taking no position at all? In George Washington's Farewell address of Sept 17, 1796 he recommended that the US "Observe good faith and justice toward all nations: cultivate peace and harmony with all."

In Jefferson's, inaugural address on 4 March 1801, he declared his devotion to "peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none."

It's true that the US never really abided by those ideals, quickly invading Canada and Mexico, Cuba and the Phillipines; and probably most nations have never abided by those goals, with perhaps a few exceptions like Switzerland, but the fact remains that those early goals still seem like a good idea.

The conflicting interests and complexities in the Mid-East make any efforts by CENTCOM and the CIA look like bulls in a china shop. And then there are the emerging civilizations in central Africa where factional alliances are shifting every day in Sudan, Nigeria, Somalia, and elsewhere, and if the major players, like the US and Chinese governments, seem unwilling or unable to provide any constructive answers, the problem might be that it would be impossible to enforce anything constructive even if they tried. Some areas of Sub-Saharan Africa seem to correlate with the days of yore when the raping, pillaging, Mongol hordes, Vikings, Cossacks, and others, considered that to be an honorable way of life.

In those areas where rebel factions, bands of thugs, and even government troops routinely ransack towns and villages due to tribal or religious rivalries, for sport, or whatever, it sometimes seems that trying to help arm "the little people" with handguns and shotguns in addition to their spears and axes, as in the old spaghetti westerns like The Magnificent Seven, (The Seven Samurai), A Fistfull of Dollars, and other Clint Eastwood movies, and letting local leaders emerge spontaneously from the ground up, instead of having the State Department choose a leader who claims enduring love for the US and then try to kill off his rivals with drones. Getting US and Chinese governments out, and letting Walmart and Chinese businesses in to fend for themselves and sell small arms among other things, might be a better way to go.

 

So what's going on with the Iran nuke deal? The news is quiet as of late.

 

In the following clip about the Haganah you will find that Haj Amin Al Husseini shook hands with Hitler before sitting down with him for discussion. This puts your frivolous statement to rest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m2OzEvyrsw

These are other pictures of Haj Amin with Himler

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haj_Amin_al-Husseini

This one is general history of Haj Amin

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/muftihit.html

 

Miko Peled is a Jewish Turncoat! He is the son of a Jewish General yet this time the apple felll far, far from the tree.

 

Iran hasn't invaded anyone.

By contrast Israel is an imperialist whose government supported Apartheid and death squads in Central America.

 

General Peled became an ardent peace maker... If you watched the video, you would know that.

 

History shows that there was considerable collaboration between Nazis and Zionists:


http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html



It is most unfortunate that anyone collaborated with these monstrous killers. But this truth has been documented and is incontrovertible.

 

"INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW

Zionism and the Third Reich

by Mark Weber"

Got anything from a real source?

 

well, Adolf Eichmann did say that if was a Jew, he would be the most extreme Zionist he could.

 

Iran is in violation of NPT and various UNSC Chapter Seven resolutions no matter what your Holocaust denial sites say about Jews.

 

"The Controversy of Zion
by
Douglas Reed"


From Wikipe

What is it with so many people that they can't find legitimate sources for their shtick.

 

He's just a jew with a different opinion. Don't know about you, but I know quite a few of those.

 

Because legitimate sources generally don't demonstrate the necessary outright bigotry and stupidity required?

 

So is... Josephus Flavius
(Joseph ben Matityahu)
37 – circa 100

Ancient Judea, 67 CE. The town of Yodfat is seized by Roman forces. A group of 41 Jews, led by Josephus, is trapped in a cave. The Romans will not let them out. What are Jews to do?

Make a search and read this on your PC

Josephus became a famed historian. He lived for 30 more years, while 39 of his comrades were rotting in a cave.

All these books on history and the Arabs persist we are aliens to our Land.

 

The US interest is to be on friendly terms with governments that allow US business. That's about it. Washington's and Jefferson's admonitions make sense, but they lived in an age of slow and steady policy by governments. Today we see radical instability of a sort unimaginable in the 18th century. In many places, bitterly opposed forces contend with one another, and cycle in and out of power. That makes it less than easy to be friendly with other governments because, in doing so, we antagonize factions in those countries which might be in power a year from now, and be unwilling to forgive our friendship with their enemies. Today, our pursuit of friendship with others is the source of our trouble because it's so hard to befriend anyone without also earning the enmity of their enemies. Washington and Jefferson lived among long-lasting monarchies whose foreign policies seldom shifted.

 

The US, like England, pursues its own interests. The US, like England, likes to believe it acts only for high-minded reasons. To understand the US today, study the history of the British Empire, on which the US empire is patterned. As an American, I deeply regret my country's transformation into an empire. The US was founded as a Constitutional Republic, but time has eroded its commitment to republican values, and the average American now doesn't even know what those values are, or understand his own history. I believe this empire has caused us no end of trouble, just as it did England. But the choice facing every government is how much power they can, and should, exercise in pursuit of the national interest. Self-restraint and modesty are the rarest of virtues among governments. Few citizens want to hear that they're unemployed and suffering because their government thought it immoral to secure an overseas advantage.

England today is like Abelard, who discovered the importance of chastity only after being castrated.

 

No...your not interested in talking and debating with a person such as myself that knows the FACTS.

Here is a FACT....the Palestinian's and other Arabs in the region are damn LUCKY that the British or American's did not come in with Heavy Bombers and CARPET BOMB THE ENTIRE AREA.

It is WELL KNOWN AND HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED that the Arabs and in particular the PALESTINIAN'S were helping the NAZI'S and a few pages back on this topic both I and Drew have provided DETAILED FACTUAL INFORMATION THAT PROVES THIS!!!!

Now I try not to take sides in today's Israeli/Palestinian Issue but if I was alive back between 1943 to 1945 you can damn well be certain if I was commanding a Desert Mechanized Division like U.S. General Patton was or British General Montgomery was against the Nazi's and including Rommel...I would have ordered the complete annihilation of any and all Palestinian's and Arabs helping the Nazi's

This was Rommel's Africa Corps. Plan.

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STUTTGART, Germany (Agence France-Presse) — The Nazis developed plans to slaughter half a million Jews who fled to Palestine during the Holocaust, according to a new study presented yesterday.

A research team from Stuttgart University in southern Germany found evidence that the Nazi occupiers in Athens established a military unit ready to wipe out the Jews who had escaped the systematic genocide in Europe.

The troops were under the command of German Field Marshal Erwin Rommel’s Afrikakorps during World War II.

Klaus-Michael Mallmann and Martin Cueppers of Stuttgart University based their research on three years’ study of German wartime records, notably from the Foreign Ministry and the military archive in the western city of Freiburg.

The historians said in their new book, “Germans, Jews, Genocide — The Holocaust as History and Present,” that only Rommel’s defeat in 1942 in Egypt by the British prevented the spread of the Holocaust to Palestine.

If Rommel’s army had defeated his enemy, General Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery’s troops and made it to Palestine, the unit would have received orders to slay all 500,000 Jews there.

The units were to work like the task forces that exterminated hundreds of thousands of Jews in Eastern Europe.

The authors said the Nazis were counting on the Palestinians to assist in the plan because of their traditionally good ties with the Germans.

“The grand mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was the most important collaborator with the Nazis on the Arab side and an uncompromising anti-Semite,” they said.

“He showed what a decisive role hatred of Jews played in the project to promote German-Arab understanding.”

They said that Sheik al-Husseini held several meetings with Adolf Eichmann, the man who organized the logistics of the Holocaust for the Nazis.

“The history of the Middle East would have been completely different and a Jewish state would never have been founded if the plan by the Germans and Arabs had been implemented,” Mr. Mallmann said.

An estimated 6 million European Jews were killed under the Nazis’ “Final Solution.”



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Have you read this?



There are photos of German Luftwafe picnicking around Christmas in Palestine with Jewish girls.

 

Margot....what does this have to do with my above posted FACTS?

Not all German's were dedicated to the slaughter and mass killings of Jewish people. I am not Jewish and I have no inclination to be some defender of the Israeli Propaganda Line.....as I know that the Israeli's just as the Palestinian's and Syrian's and Iranian's...etc....all have their OWN AGENDAS.....but Margot there is only ONE SET OF FACTS.

The Luftwafe were known to be sympathetic to Jew's being hunted down for slaughter as the members and pilots of the Luftwafe were usually HIGHLY EDUCATED AND SKILLED PROFESSIONALS who bristled when having to endure being ordered around by the members of the Gestapo and SS.

As part of the deal in which Adolf Hitler became Chancellor of Germany, Hermann Göring—future commander of the Luftwaffe and an influential Nazi Party official—was named Interior Minister of Prussia. This gave him command of the largest police force in Germany. Soon afterward, Göring detached the political and intelligence sections from the police and filled their ranks with Nazis. On 26 April 1933, Göring merged the two units as the Gestapo. He originally wanted to name it the Secret Police Office (German: Geheimes Polizeiamt), but discovered the German initials "GPA" looked and sounded too much like the Russian GPU.[5]
Its first commander was Rudolf Diels, a protégé of Göring. Diels was best known as the primary interrogator of Marinus van der Lubbe after the Reichstag fire. In late 1933, the Reich Interior Minister Wilhelm Frick wanted to integrate all the police forces of the German states under his control. Göring outflanked him by removing the Prussian political and intelligence departments from the state interior ministry.[6] Göring himself took over the Gestapo in 1934 and urged Hitler to extend the agency's authority throughout Germany. This represented a radical departure from German tradition, which held that law enforcement was (mostly) a Land (state) and local matter. In this, he ran into conflict with Heinrich Himmler, who was police chief of the second most powerful German state, Bavaria. Frick did not have the muscle to take on Göring by himself so he allied with Himmler. With Frick's support, Himmler (pushed on by his right hand man, Reinhard Heydrich) took over the political police of state after state. Soon only Prussia was left.[7]


Heinrich Himmler and Hermann Göring at the meeting to formally hand over control of the Gestapo (Berlin, 1934).
Concerned that Diels was not ruthless enough to effectively counteract the power of the Sturmabteilung (SA), Göring handed over control of the Gestapo to Himmler on 20 April 1934. Also on that date, Hitler appointed Himmler chief of all German police outside Prussia. Heydrich, named chief of the Gestapo by Himmler on 22 April 1934, also continued as head of the SS Security Service (Sicherheitsdienst, SD).[8]
On 17 June 1936, Hitler decreed the unification of all police forces in the Reich and named Himmler as Chief of German Police.[9] While Himmler was still nominally subordinate to Frick, this action effectively merged the police into the SS, removing it from Frick's control. Himmler, as Reichsführer-SS, answered only to Hitler. This move gave Himmler operational control over Germany's entire detective force.[10] The Gestapo became a national state agency rather than a Prussian state agency. Himmler also gained authority over all of Germany's uniformed law enforcement agencies, which were amalgamated into the new Ordnungspolizei (Orpo: Order Police), which became a national agency under SS general Kurt Daluege.[9] Shortly thereafter, Himmler created the Kriminalpolizei (Kripo: Criminal Police), merging it with the Gestapo into the Sicherheitspolizei (SiPo: Security Police), under Heydrich's command. The SiPo was considered a complementary organization to the SD.[3] Heinrich Müller was at that time the Gestapo operations chief.[11] He answered to Heydrich; Heydrich answered only to Himmler and Himmler answered only to Hitler.

But this has NOTHING to do with the FACT that the Palestinian's helped the Nazi's and there are many considered WWII plans devised by both the British and the American's to DEAL with the Arab indoctrination into the Nazi mentality.....so in effect the Palestinian's and other Arab's should consider themselves LUCKY that both the American's and British did not choose to carry out some of the planned operations against them as the Arab Information and Route Supply Network was vital to Rommel's Africa Corps.

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