Nuclear Deal Reached With Iran

There is a website called Foreign Volunteers to the Waffen SS.. I have read it many times.. but I sure can't find it now... As I recall the were only a handful of Palestinians..

 

Margot....understand I support the creation of a Palestinian State.

I also support the Palestinian's and Syrian's declaring the Right of Israel to Exist.

I KNOW a great deal about what is going on on the ground over there in Israel, Gaza, Jerusalem, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan....and as well I am intimately familiar with how the Iranian QUD'S FORCE which has offices in Damascus along with other storefront offices of Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad....etc.

My point is that the ONLY reason why there is not yet a Palestinian State is that those in power in the Middle East DON'T WANT PEACE.

They are pocketing Billions of Dollars in U.S. and International Aid and as long as the Gravy Train keeps rolling there will be no peace.

I know this because I have been apart of such meetings specific to developing rules of protocol and setting dates and times that take into account Religious aspects and ceremonies specific to all sides.

And the ONLY thing that is important to all sides Leadership is...."When will the U.S. Congress release our AID FUNDING?"

All sides are VERY CAREFUL not to P!$$ OFF the American's as they know where their bread is being buttered. Everyone is careful not to irritate us except....Islamic Jihad as of late and if I or my Team were to come into contact with any Islamic Jihad Members we would cut off their Heads and stick them on Pikes!!

Right now even Hamas and Hezbollah are GUNNING for a very specific New Group in Islamic Jihad that has just gone TOO FAR!!! So far in fact I am not positive but fairly certain that other members of Islamic Jihad have been ordered to eliminate this new mini sect of their own group.

So....as far as I am concerned....I would just love a PEACEFUL SETTLEMENT....but the Leadership on all sides just doesn't want peace....they want....MONEY!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Of course the Arabs want peace in Palestine. Perhaps not Iran and Syria, but the rest do.

I am sorry I can't find that website.. There was NO commentary just lists.. I guess I haven't seen it since 2006.

I knew the Saudi Peace initiative was coming down the pike in 2000.. They had big plans.. to develop infrastructure in Palestine to create jobs.. which would be a huge benefit to peace.. and to sweeten the deal Crown Prince Abdullah ordered a study to repair and restore a pipeline from Ghawar to Sidon with a spur to Haifa. Lots of water under the bridge since the spring of 2002.. but the GCC still wants that peace plan.

 

The Modern Arab Family wants peace in Palestine but I can tell you that the Leadership over the years of Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, the Assad Regime and the Israeli Military DO NOT!

This was part of my JOB....and I am very good at doing my...JOB....and these people made it impossible!

I was stuck there once for 2 MONTHS and we got nowhere. I even locked a group of them in a room for HOURS until they would agree to something as SIMPLE AS A MEETING TIME.

It is all about the MONEY!

AboveAlpha

 

I believe you.. So what is your take on Jordan? I know they get some US Foreign Aid.. often in the form of weevil infested grain that has to be dumped in the nearest landfill. I am guessing that Midwest farmers can empty their silos and the shipping companies make money.

 

I live in Western Massachusetts....which is a beautiful part of the world and very close to where I live is a Prep-School known as Deerfield Acadamy......and guess who is my friend and is the current leader of Jordan? King Abdullah II of Jordan who graduated from Deerfield Acadamy in 1980 is a man I know well and call friend.

Jordan is the most progressive of all Arab Nations and also benefits from a very close relationship with the United States as well Jordan and Israel are at PEACE.

Now as far as this bad grain you talk about I have no idea but I can tell you that the United States grows more crops of Corn, Wheat, Barley, Rye, Soybean, etc.....than THE ENTIRE WORLD COMBINED.

The United States by itself has been detailed in a WHO...World Health Organization Report as being responsible for keeping over 1.5 Billion People ALIVE by it's Food Donations, Medical Assistance, Immunizations, Mosquito Net Donations and Genetically Engineered Crops such as Wheat and Corn that can grow in sand and Rice that can grow in Drought Stricken parts of Asia.

Jordan is a place where a Modern and Moderate Islamic Arab Nation talks with the United States and benefits GREATLY from being our access to all sides of all issues in the region.

If it were not for Jordan....Honestly I think at a few points in the past we would have just said....F@#$ IT!.....and blown the whole Middle East to Hell!

I am privy to several Military Plans of Action that were being considered right after 9/11. I can tell you that our talking with Jordan at the time HELPED US decide to go with the LEAST DESTRUCTIVE CONTINGENCY PLAN....as there were a few plans being SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED that would have completely changed the face of the Middle East....FOREVER.

And the sad thing about it is....we can still do it.

IF...and GOD FORBID....something like 9/11 or worse happens again to the U.S.....you will see one of these other Military Contingency Plans be chosen and placed into action.

The result....is too terrible to contemplate as we would not be so concerned for civilian casualties this time around.

After 9/11....many Arab Nations and their Leaders as well as Persian Iran.....were MAD AS HELL AT BIN LADEN!

In their eyes he was responsible for causing a mass invasion of the Middle East by the United States and at that point there was no telling just how far the United States Military would go as it was possible for the U.S. Military to completely take over every nation in the Middle East and some of the more...comprehensive Military Contingency Plans called for this.

Iran was particularly worried having U.S. Military Forces on either side of their country...Iraq and Afghanistan....and contrary to any misguided concepts that the U.S. Military would have a difficult time in any war with Iran....uhhh...NO...it wouldn't.

Just HOPE that some bunch of IDIOTS does not attempt and succeed in another 9/11 or worse style attack because the U.S. Military has an entire Toy Box of Highly Advanced Weapon Systems it could bring to bear such as Non-Nuclear EMP's.....FEL's....Free Electron Laser systems.....Microwave Direct Energy Beaming capable of destroying just about anything or anyone it is pointed at from Space.....Particle Beams and some things that even I don't know about.

Such weapons are usually classified as LAST USE....but in another 9/11 style attack....an EXAMPLE would have to be made of some nation or groups of nations and we are fully capable of rendering an entire Nations Military USELESS without killing a single person....as Non-Nuclear EMP's can make anything that has electronics useless but this also includes Power Grids, Auto's and Trucks, Cell Phones, Satellite Receivers.....anything and everything needed for everyday life....and to use these EMP's would bring an entire Nation or Groups of Nations back to the STONE AGE.

AboveAlpha

 

I know Deerfield Academy.

I also like Jordan. In my lifetime they have never been the bad guys.

Yes.. I know that 9-11 enraged the Arab world. From their perspective it was an unthinkable attack..

In my heart I think the 19 terrorists won.. They set off a whole crazy anti Muslim fear and retribution scenario.

I also know that there are many contingency plans that are revised and tweaked constantly.

Let's hope for the best..

 

Thank You Margot for understanding my position and where I stand.

I am just tired of listening to excuses by all sides leadership for why they can't get a deal done.

The average modern Muslin Family is just like any other family....they work, they send their kids to school, they hope to be able to send their kids to a College in the United States.....the worry and hope to give their children a better life then they had.

I know this not only because I have been over there many times but because we have MILLIONS of Muslims living in the United States and these people came here BECAUSE THEY WERE SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THE FIGHTING AND KILLING IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES.

I have a family who are friends of mine who escaped from Iran recently and they work very hard and they own their own business as they have a successful Restaurant in my town and they serve basic American fare.

They have several children and two of them joined the U.S. Army.

All of them are now CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.....they told me the proudest day of their life was being sworn in as a U.S. Citizen and given a small U.S. Flag to wave.

They take their right to VOTE VERY SERIOUSLY because in their own words...."We had no such right in Iran. Oh...we could vote...but it didn't matter as the vote was fixed."

They are GOOD PEOPLE...just as are most average modern Muslim Families.....but they are placed in danger by a bunch of idiots that do not realize just how BAD THINGS COULD GET.

AboveAlpha

 

Well, I can only repeat John Lennon's request, Imagine there are no countries, all border security stations torn down, as between Germany and France, who fought a lot of bloody wars against each other and now the signs just read "Welcome to France" and "Welcome to Germany." And the Transportation Security Adminstation Brownshirts and US Border Patrol Federales were just given golden parachutes and sent on their merry ways. And all Earthlings were just allowed to work wherever they wanted to work, and go wherever they wanted to go carrying concealed weapons or marihuana or whaever, and private airlines decided how to process their passengers in their own ways. Hard to imagine?
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...&mid=CD66D616404B88021D37CD66D616404B88021D37

 

You've talked to the Russians, Chinese, Al Qeada and third world about this of course and they have all stated they wouldn't attack when allowed inside, take our jobs or otherwise affect us in a detrimental way?

 

This is CLANG!

 

You proved the opinion of Blix, but you failed again and again to prove when the UNSC decided the chance of res 1441 was not taken by Iran.

Ah right, so the vid points out it acknowledges the holocaust, so your opinion becomes "it's a trick phrase".
I'm not interested in your opinion.

Indeed, and the Jewish concept is that 6 million Jews got killed. it can not be denied.
It's as simple as that. you loose.

 

No nation on earth has violated UN Security Council Resolutions more than the Israeli tyrants.

 

The brave, freedom loving, generous nation of Israel has violated no Chapter Seven UNSC Resolutions.

 

It was not an opinion but a report in which the UNSC convened to have given to them. In the parts where he sttes his opinion, he says it is so with the rest being facts. This is climax of 1441 where it is shown that Iraq has not adhered to the resolution.

"4. Decides that false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq's obligations "

Dealt with in post #43 here.

 

I don't trust the Iranians, and I don't think they will uphold their end of this bargain. But like the old saying goes a bad peace is better than a good war.

 

Yeah like Israel is a nation of peace and freedom lovers:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel_and_Palestine

http://www.geocities.com/savepalestinenow/internationallaw/studyguides/sgil3i.htm

 

Of course it is, come and visit and enlighten yourself.

Now about the links.
Israel would have been condemned for eating a <Pastrami Sandwitch> if the Muslim Countries in addition to the 22 Arab countries would vote <en bloc>... Relax and smell the roses.

 

So please, list the Chapter Seven Resolutions Israel is in violation of.

 

Remove the power of the veto and your question may then have some validity

 

True, as long as the U.S is currently the puppet of the Israeli Government, there'll be no such charge of violation, or even if there is a charge the veto will virtually negate it. Israel is the laughing stock among current U.N members. It's so laughable in that in spite of how much it cried out about how the Palestinians resort to terrorism, they actually cried louder that how DARE the Palestinians channel the proper channels(the U.N).

You would've thought the Jewish would like it if the Palestinians became "more civilized" and engaged in civilized dialogue, but I guess not.

 

I wonder why, take a look at their country. They have been forced to blockade their country just so they can have a mass transit system without being blown up. They are completely surrounded by tens of thousands of rockets that were made in ????. And the UN has done jack diddly about these situations, that took decades to develop. The UN is weak, and Israel is right to ignore them in many aspects.

 

wasn't a question and, we are not arguing 'ifs' but reality. Israel is in violation of no Chapter Seven Resolutions - Iran is.

 

Pointless point from you then. The US will veto any chapter VII resolutions on Israel as can be seen from the list of vetoed resolutions including at least one chapter VII (number 151).

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...the-united-nations-security-council-1946-2012

Also includes many contravening events of the fourth Geneva convention by Israel all vetoed by the US.

 

"The US will veto ANY chapter VII resolutions on Israel" huh? And your sampling pool to prove this is .........


"the list of vetoed resolutions including at least one chapter VII (number 151)."

One?

Russia and China have vetoed more than that on Iran alone not to mention Syria yet, Iran is under sanctions by the UNSC in Chapter VII resolutions, Israel is not.

I take it that unless you have something else to hang your hat on then my point is made.