Pelosi tells Dems she wants to see Trump ‘in prison’

They got Cohen on bank fraud and tax evasion. If there is strong evidence of that kind of thing against Trump, I think he will bail and let Pence be president for a few months in exchange for a pardon.

 

No you are not.

 

2020 campaign motto?
Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up?

 

Horrible for moving the nation forward? Like the party of NO did?

 

on the federal level, the breaking an entry could of still been charged at a state level if Nixon was an accomplice before or after the fact

but yes, I think Trump will resign after the election, but before the next President takes over so that he gets that Pardon from Pence

 

Even if Trump gets pardoned, New York State is likely to try to charge him. They are already working on it.

 

I think they should, tired of rich people being above the law

 

Serious questions as, why did Mueller's report suffer from edits and omissions? I suppose declassifying everything will highlight these errors. Oh, I wonder why there's Democrat uproar!!

 

Well, actually the B&E took place in DC...it's a Federal District. More importantly the investigation showed Nixon didn't know about it before the fact, or directly after the fact, he only took part in the cover up.

I don't expect Trump to resign, the SOL is only 5 years...and clearly if the evidence supported a charge the Dems would impeach now, so that he could be prosecuted. Mueller clearly laid out how it's suppose to happen if there is a crime...Nancy P obviously doesn't believe there is one. That also explains why Nadler et al have attempted to move on and conduct their own criminal probes on other matters (abusing their power and violating the separation of powers doctrine in the process).

 

I don't think that is part of his psyche. I think he will issue a pardon to himself (and all his family members). There is no precedent for a president doing so, so it would be tied up in the courts for years.
And his cultists will cheer him for issuing himself a pardon, on the basis that he is the subject of a "deep state" attack so he needs to protect himself from the "witch hunt" that would follow his departure from office.

 

Trump's SOL begins the day he leaves office.

Anyone tells you different, just smile at them.

If Trumps resigns and pardons himself and others, the resulting suit will be fast tracked to SCOTUS immediately.

 

Yes I am but feel free to cite the criminal charges against Trump Mueller levied in it.

 

No that is what would have to be proven. Else what is the crime?

 

No corrupt intent and nothing "successful". And public pronouncements in his defense for charges he was not guilty of were not obstruction of justice and if you think that is an impeachable and removable offense then explain why Clinton wasn't impeached for that and removed.

AGAIN the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General and the Office of Legal Counsel stated no obstruction of justice after the Mueller investigation said it could not determine a crime occurred.

 

yep, a President can not Pardon himself, he must resign and have his VP do it.... like Nixon

 

For what? Conspiracy with Russia? ahhahhahah

 

Where did you learn this? Not the US Constitution...it puts no limit on who he can pardon for federal crimes

 

Can you provide the authority for that?

 

I think there are problems regarding his slush fund “Charity” foundation. Also financial records are being sought which could result in bank fraud, insurance fraud and tax fraud. Cohen produced some documents which could be troubling for Trump Inc.

 

The charity case was already settled...it was a civil proceeding, they came to an agreement. It's closed

So everything else is what you think might happen? Maybe Cohen did, but Trump Inc isn't the President...it's a business. Moreover, if what Cohen produced was what he gave the Dems in the House...I wouldn't worry if I was the President. If it was bad, they'd have it leaked the to NY Times by now.

 

I guess we will find out in the next year or so. Either way, I don’t care. If he is guilty of any financial malfeasance he should be prosecuted like anyone else. If not, he should be left alone and not harassed.

 

Proof has nothing to do with any of this. A jury decides guilt or innocence. An impeachment lays out the facts for congress, or it may indict and send it to a trial where guilt or innocence is found. Nowhere in that nor in any legislation on these processes can you find a need for "proof". Any questions?

 

Starr was given more leeway, more flexibility & more power in his investigation than Mueller was given. After the Nixon impeachment, the Congress passed laws restricting future investigations in many ways. Mueller worked under those new guidelines. Also, in the 1990s, the DOJ activated the current policy that no sitting President can be charged with a crime by the normal legal system (headed by the DOJ itself). Mueller said in his public statement last month, that from the beginning, it was made clear to him that he had no power to bring charges against Trump, & therefore it was never considered by him or his crew from the start. But, in spite of having no authority to act on his findings himself, Mueller did state that if he could have cleared the President of all wrongdoing based on his evidence, he would have. The fact that he didn't, speaks volumes.

 

The Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General and the Office of Legal Counsel are all Trump plants, and in any case they can only express their opinions on it, as you also may. Guilt or innocence shall be determined by congress and/or courts.

 

No they are not, only Barr who has an impeccable reputation even better than Mueller was appointed by Trump. And yes those are our federal governments opinion on the facts. Guilt is determined by our system of justice which has already said, no criminal acts. There is no further legal process from Mueller or the federal government. It the Democrats are so bent on impeachment, all for political gain, it's not going to be found in the two year investigation into Russian collusion and obstruction of justice.