Prove to me how Islam is not the most violent religion

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  1. RiaRaeb

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    No it suggest that those actually perpetuating the acts are being motivated by religion, that does not mean religion is the cause. What do you think "for God and Country" invokes?
     
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    Christians are promoting the death sentence for gays and attacking little children because they are witches!
     
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    This fact is new to you? Really? .... Huh
     
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    Erm, how about you prove your assertion? That's how it works.

    To keep an apples-to-apples comparison, let's focus on Islam as practiced in the west, especially the United States. Just a short dissertation with some supporting evidence would be nice, and don't forget to be thorough about comparing Islam to the other major religions in the west. You should examine doctrines as well as attitudes and actions among the adherents to these religions, and especially at statistical acts and support for acts of violence of all kinds.
     
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    If you're worried about beheadings, I hope you're concerned about MAGA's ongoing love for the Saudis, whom he likes because they've given him a lot of money over the decades.
     
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    In context all those verses are about fighting defensive war after the holy months have passed.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    In Syria. There is no death penalty for gays.
     
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    ”Islam” is an abstract noun, like all other religious labels. Violence involves a direct physical action. Abstract concepts can’t take physical actions so no religion can defined as violent, let alone the most violent. Some religious people are sometimes violent but then so are some non-religious people. It’s difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between violence attributable to religion and violence attributable to other factors (instead or as well).
     
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    That means God is great... And they say it all day long for good fortune. Hate sites have nothing to offer.
     
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/411772-trump-saudi-arabia-has-been-a-great-ally-to-me

    The president, a longtime business mogul, has long-standing and close business ties to the Saudis, with Saudi businessmen spending significant amounts of money at his hotels and properties over decades.

    One Saudi royal billionaire, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, purchased Trump's yacht and a stake in New York's Plaza Hotel in the 1990s when Trump was in financial distress. ​
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    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-but-not-because-of-the-phony-giant-arms-deal

    Trump: Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.​
     
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    Yep, and it biases us greatly when all of the media attention is on terrorism and other violence, and we have no other exposure to Islam.
     
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    The Holocaust was based on religion - you a Jew (or some other minority) you get gassed. you a Christian walk on by.
     
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    There is no other religion in the world that calls for converting the infidels, or putting them to death by the sword! Islam is a religion of death and violence.
     
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    I think, before answering, I need to understand your knowledge of 'Islam' - what is your definition?
     
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    yes, much the same as some Muslims try to stay out of the Muslim craziness today

    it's sad, but many Christians then were afraid, just as many Muslims today are afraid of their violent fanatics

    Trump would attack people in public as a warning to others sadly, he would make them sign NDA's, ruin them in court.... Trump is a rich bully

    I even heard Trump made government employees sign NDA's that they would never say anything bad about trump or his Businesses ever.... that is unheard of
     
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    So what I'm getting here is that Christians are violent DESPITE their religion and Muslims are violent BECAUSE of their religion.
     
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    Your work isn't done here unless you take the time to explain how you think Islam is the most violent religion. Just with your title, you show that you know little to nothing about Islam, and are confusing radical offshoots with the actual religion.
     
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    So the majority of Muslims are peaceful despite their religion?
     
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    I do not dispute that Islam is a religion of death and violence. Not only do its religious texts call for violence - many of the adherents to this religion call for or condone violence up to and including calling for the death of infidels.

    Where you are wrong is that there are not other religions that call for converting the infidels (Christianity) or even putting them to death (Christianity and others).

    Christianity - in the 1000 years of horror - after they Church got power - was very much "conversion by the sword" . Heretics (another word for infidels) were regularly put to death.

    We saw this during WW2 when Catholic Croatia committed mass genocide in Orthodox and Jewish Serbs (there were also forced conversions during this time)..... and the Church was involved. In the early days of WW2 Hitler looked like might be successful. The Vatican was all to happy to rekindle one of its favorite historical pastimes - Persecuting and Killing Jews.

    "Ivan Šarić, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Vrhbosna in Sarajevo, supported the Ustaša, in particular the forcible conversion of Orthodox Serbs to Roman Catholicism"

    His diocesan newspaper wrote: "There is a limit to love. The movement of liberation of the world from the Jews is a movement for the renewal of human dignity. Omniscient and omnipotent God stands behind this movement."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_clergy_involvement_with_the_Ustaše

    Martin Luther could not have been more pleased. Exasperated over the inability to forcefully convert the Jews he wrote his treatise "On the Jews and their Lies"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

    Then we have more modern loons like this Christian Pastor - a fellow who has the support of a number of religious right politicians. A fellow who supports the death penalty for the crime of Homosexuality.
     
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    What’s that have to do with factually stating that neither world wars caused by religious ideology?
     
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    Islam doesn't either. Jews and Christian's aren't infidels.... And pagans are to be left in peace unless they attack Muslims. The bigger problem is ignorance and internet experts.
     
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    Buying a boat is not giving Trump money.
     
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    Seems to be the case ...
     
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